Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:55:45 -0800 From: richard childers / kg6hac <fscked@pacbell.net> To: Atom Smasher <atom@smasher.org> Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Senior Network Engineer - UNIX System Administrator Message-ID: <41F1EAE1.7080003@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <20050122013652.45724.qmail@smasher.org> References: <04bc01c50009$44ab2660$2651010a@suzannebrio> <20050122013652.45724.qmail@smasher.org>
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> Please include the following information in your response: > > a.. Which shell script in the FreeBSD source tree defines the version > number of a kernel > b.. In the following FreeBSD version '4.10-STABLE', which variables > in the script refer to 4.10 and which to STABLE > c.. Which header file in FreeBSD defines the ICMP types, and what > reply type is "3.3" Yeah, most of this stuff changes over time, and from OS to OS, and vendor to vendor. Isn't that what find(1) was invented for, ummmm, twenty-plus years ago? And man(1)? The fact is that people 'way smarter than most of the readers of these words - myself included - designed the UNIX operating system, like, 25 years ago, and even then, they, brilliant people that they were, could not keep track of all the information - the routines, the parameters, the commands, the options. So they invented the online manual. The fact that the result was a self-documenting software release was only incidental; the original use of UNIX was to facilitate typesetting (printing with as much value added as was possible, in those dark ages) of manuscripts, by administrative assistants, for submission to research papers. UNIX has only gotten bigger and hairier since then. My point being that the amount of information has not diminished. Exactly the opposite. It has increased. You don't want to select people who know the answers ahead of time; you want people who know how to use the tools to find the answers, dynamically. The right answer changes, from machine to machine, OS to OS, release to release, vendor to vendor. But the same basic tools are used throughout. They've stood me in good stead over more than two decades. These questions actually filter for those whom are adept at exaggerating their expertise, at the expense of those, naive engineering types that they are, whom are painfully, scrupulously honest about their literal experience. Too bad, because you want engineers running your infrastructure ... not perception managers. Consider: if someone wants to cheat by using find(1) and figuring out the answers, and then using the results to exaggerate the amount of actual experience they have with the subject matter, they will receive an artificially boosted priority from those reviewing the resumes ... which is hardly the point, unless you are selecting for people who are not only bright - but also crooked as a dog's hind leg. It's a disease of our time. The cure is to start a small company offering consulting services, and maker money off those perception managers ... because frequently, in order to maintain those perceptions, they bring in experts, at a much higher rate of pay. Regards, -- richard Atom Smasher wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Suz'Anne Fuhrmann wrote: > >> Please include the following information in your response: >> >> a.. Which shell script in the FreeBSD source tree defines the >> version number of a kernel >> b.. In the following FreeBSD version '4.10-STABLE', which variables >> in the script refer to 4.10 and which to STABLE >> c.. Which header file in FreeBSD defines the ICMP types, and what >> reply type is "3.3" > > ==================== > > are you hiring for a computer job or casting for a quiz-show? > > sure, this stuff is relevant to kernel hacking, but i didn't see that > as part of the job description. > > > - -- ...atom > > _________________________________________ > PGP key - http://atom.smasher.org/pgp.txt > 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 > ------------------------------------------------- > > "Unix is simple. It just takes a > genius to understand its simplicity." > -- Dennis Ritchie > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) > Comment: What is this gibberish? > Comment: http://atom.smasher.org/links/#digital_signatures > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJB8a9cAAoJEAx/d+cTpVciM3MH/j2AGYzIEOlM0tteRzKQjZrM > 6YiV/OqkFGm6AN0XkSitzcfDHqF0qchkwQ0ELtIduz7OuxEQesQNdIatuix47JJi > ej24YRgFLJTC+UB+0yUSZtAJLVJHuY0lG5J0zVEDilu15ygpWmlBJfjXVixxfc94 > t4Mbg/LCvjbzyYKDVPmT0UBsb39LO+J7ELPlQt6HS47/KzVyRIvhxUQdCJScqjBE > pfgP0GOXzTNGIKKEy451Tb/uDIXPmhiesJ5lmLmfcFrQAx4Fl57b8L9u5iAkyamB > TsYu2Zhp6q9X+8ONHbPguHNWJSnRIpR8W84yqMA8xBn0w8V8r2/cWg5i1ihpzJU= > =e23+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jobs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jobs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Richard Childers / Senior Engineer Daemonized Networking Services 945 Taraval Street, #105 San Francisco, CA 94116 USA [011.]1.415.759.5571 http://www.daemonized.com 'A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.' -- (Attributed to J. 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