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Date:      Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:17:58 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Edwin Groothuis <edwin@mavetju.org>, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: New port with maintainer ports@FreeBSD.org [was: Question about maintainers]
Message-ID:  <20050729151758.GA48781@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050729103706.GB73490@isis.sigpipe.cz>
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 12:37:06PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> # edwin@mavetju.org / 2005-07-29 09:33:34 +1000:
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 06:41:11PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > >     Or, I'll accept the fact that my address must appear in MAINTAINER
> > >     before you accept results of my work, but will ignore any and all
> > >     PRs coming my way: I don't use the software in question enough to
> > >     be a good maintainer, so I better don't waste my time.  In the
> > >     meantime, PRs for ports I have been sentenced to "maintain" hang
> > >     in GNATS, and later the MAINTAINER either gets reset, or the port
> > >     suffers from perpetual maintainer timeouts.
> >=20
> > If you're going to play silly games, expect to be played silly games
> > with.
> >=20
> > Or in other words, people will start to actively ignore your new
> > ports based on their experience with your current ports.
>=20
>     Yup, and I don't want to do that.
>    =20
>     I can occasionaly spend a week or two working on a port
>     (http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/gri/gri/doc/gri.texi?r1=3D1.187&r2=3D1.=
188&diff_format=3Du)
>     but if I cannot promise to be a good maintainer for it for various
>     reasons, I shouldn't be forced to.
>=20
>     Of course, you can tell me to take it or leave it, but is that an
>     improvement?

Roman, I haven't seen you respond to my mail detailing precisely what
the policy is and why is in effect.  You've only replied to other
emails which discuss other interpretations or misunderstandings of the
policy, or related concerns.  Instead of continuing to do this,
perhaps I can direct you to my email?

Kris

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