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Date:      Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:03:05 -0500 (EST)
From:      Peter <petermatulis@yahoo.ca>
To:        "Donald J. O'Neill" <duncan.fbsd@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Disappointed with version 6.0
Message-ID:  <20060312020305.42757.qmail@web60025.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <200603111912.29485.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com>

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--- "Donald J. O'Neill" <duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 11 March 2006 18:48, Peter wrote:
> >
> > You can answer me tomorrow if you like but here is an update:
> >
> > I removed the cdrom and the problem remains.  I got the usb ports
> to
> > work as well by updating the bios and fiddling with some settings. 
> > It is truly a mystery why this 300 GB drive cannot talk to FreeBSD.
> > Again, it is detected fine by the bios; it passes dos level
> > diagnostics; it is on the same ide cable (as slave) as the 200 GB
> > drive that is identical to it save for an extra 100 GB.  My next
> step
> > is to boot with knoppix to see how it behaves.
> >
> > --
> > Peter
> >
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I've recovered sufficiently enough that I can type without spending
> all 
> my time correcting spelling errors that a spelling checker can't fix.
> 
> OK, does dmesg still give this with the cdrom removed:
> 
> ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable
> ad0: 39205MB <Maxtor 6K040L0 NAR61HA0> at ata0-master UDMA33
> acd0: CDROM <GCR-8525B/1.02> at ata0-slave PIO4
> ad2: 190782MB <Seagate ST3200826A 3.03> at ata1-master UDMA100
> ad3: 286168MB <Seagate ST3300831A 3.03> at ata1-slave UDMA100
> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> 
> If the message for ad0 has changed, and it is now detected as an
> ata100 
> device and is running at UDMA100, you've solved part of your problem.


dmesg now says:

ad0: 39205MB <Maxtor 6K040L0 NAR61HA0> at ata0-master UDMA133
ad2: 190782MB <Seagate ST3200826A 3.03> at ata1-master UDMA100
ad3: 286168MB <Seagate ST3300831A 3.03> at ata1-slave UDMA100

So ad0's speed has increased by 100 MB/s?


> Your system will access the boot drive at a higher speed.
> 
> ad3 is still detected but you can't access it. So, I have to ask:
> when 
> you set up the system, did you install a ufs system on it? Did you 
> carve it up using bsdlabel? Or, did you leave it alone because you 
> plane on using it for something else? This would be a reason for why
> it 
> shows up on dmesg, but you can't access it.


Yes, per install defaults ufs (and most probably soft updates) was
used.  Everything was done via the default sysinstall procedure.  I
said to use "entire drive" and then made one partition.  It creates
/dev/ad3s1d.

I just entered sysinstall again to start fresh and during the format
portion "Doing newfs" I hear some sounds I've never heard before on a
hard drive.  Like a mechanical arm is trying to move but it keeps
bouncing back.  Then I get:

"Error mounting /dev/ad3s1d on /images : Input/output error"

But if there was something mechanically wrong then my dos-level
diagnostics would of picked it up (I had an disk excercise tool running
on it for 20 minutes without any problems).


> Now, you need to do something about the cdrom. It's kind of unhandy
> to 
> be without one. That's why I asked if you really needed the 40GB
> Maxtor 
> and if you did, suggested you get an ata controller card, then you 
> could use all three drives. And I also asked if you could just remove

> that drive and use the two Seagates.


I need all three drives:

1. system drive (40 GB)
2. client data backups (200 GB)
3. client data images (300 GB)

The #3 drive (the problematic one) will actually be removed offsite
once the (client hard drive) images have been stored.  And this is
where I might be able to weasel out of my current predicament.  I can
put back the cdrom afterwards.


> I guess there's one other question: how did you get from 5.4 to 6.0,
> and is it 6.0 or is it 6 STABLE?

No, no.  This is a brand new install of 6.0 (I can therefore mess
around with impunity).  When I mentioned "go back to 5.4" I did not
mean to imply I upgraded.

--
Peter




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