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Date:      Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:04:52 +0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
To:        James Lott <james@lottspot.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ethernet tunneling options under FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <55D09884.7010102@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <2628655.0T22OuP5Ng@arch_project>
References:  <55CD1CE6.2010502@lottspot.com> <3236701.dypBHjs8Lg@arch_project> <CAKYr3zxbzouG-zHB9sLH9Gj_o_sKKRZbM5bw6NiTePFAA%2BHMHw@mail.gmail.com> <2628655.0T22OuP5Ng@arch_project>

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On 8/15/15 11:32 AM, James Lott wrote:
> n2n honestly looks wonderful, but it also appears to be dead... I'm trying to
> stay as close to the OS layer as possible with my options, so I would prefer
> to limit the role of comprehensive software like OpenVPN or what
> ZeroTierOne appears to be.
>
> I actually found this interesting github project, which provides a simple
> solution for what I'm trying to do...
>
> https://github.com/vsergeev/tinytaptunnel

you can do this on freebsd with no added software
look at /usr/share/examples/netgraph. In particular the ether.bridge, 
virtual.lan and the udp.tunnel
examples.
You should be able to create a script that will tunnel two ethernet 
bridges together using elements from each script.

I suspect you could make it totally compatible with tinytaptunnel.


>
> Unfortunately, it's written for Linux... and... in go... but the README at
> least gave me a couple more ideas to look into.
>
> Feel free to keep coming with the suggestions if anyone has anymore! This is
> great stuff
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 13:05:17 Outback Dingo wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:40 PM, James Lott <james@lottspot.com>
> wrote:
>>>> you haven't really described the network well enough..
>>>> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
>>>> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?
>>> The thing is, the "other" could be any number of operating systems. I'm
>>> looking for a tunneling protocol with good cross-platform representation,
>>> but
>>> the higher priority it enduring it tunnels ethernet frames.
>>>
>>> For the sake of example we can say the other end is a FreeBSD host, since
>>> FreeBSD is looking like the "lowest common denominator" on this topic.
>>>
>>>> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
>>>> for example:
>>>> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
>>>>
>>>> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
>>> I'm not overly concerned with the host side interfaces. What I'm really
>>> concerned with is the tunneling protocol since that's what will need
>>> support
>>> on all of my platforms. Thus, a solution requiring netgraph on both ends
>>> is
>>> not an option in my case.
>>>
>>>> tap->ppp->ppp->tap
>>> I have not found any ppp implementations under FreeBSD which support
> BCP.
>>> To my understanding, that's the only method by which ethernet frames can
>>> be
>>> tunneled over ppp... if I'm wrong, please do correct me! I would love
>>> nothing
>>> more than to be wrong about that :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015 23:16:41 Julian Elischer wrote:
>>>> On 8/14/15 6:40 AM, James Lott wrote:
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in the process of planning a build out of a L2 VPN, in which
>>>>> I'd like to have my primary "switch" and DHCP server be a FreeBSD
>>>>> system. I would like to join each new host to the VPN by
>>>>> establishing an IP tunnel with the primary "switch" which transports
>>>>> ethernet frames over the tunnel.
>>>> you haven't really described the network well enough..
>>>> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
>>>> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?
>>>>
>>>>> So far, the only protocol I have found supported by FreeBSD which
>>>>> seems capable of this is EtherIP. As far as I can tell, it doesn't
>>>>> look like there is any support for L2TPv3, and none of the PPP
>>>>> implementations available appear to support BCP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not completely opposed to using EtherIP, but if there is
>>>>> something more modern which will meet my needs, I would probably
> try
>>>>> that first. So my question becomes:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Does anyone know of a method supported under FreeBSD (other than
>>>>> EtherIP) for tunneling ethernet over IP that they may be able to
>>>>> suggest I check out?
>>>> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
>>>> for example:
>>>> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
>>>>
>>>> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
>>>>
>>>> tap->ppp->ppp->tap
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions!
>> theres also N2N which is pretty nice, and well ZeroTierOne  which is
>> somewhat unique
>>
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