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Date:      Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:09:25 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Konrad Heuer <kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Extended / Replaced Utilities 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980806094046.5888A-100000@gwdu60.gwdg.de>
In-Reply-To: <28490.902340503@time.cdrom.com>

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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > Now I observe that for example 2.2.6-RELEASE comes with a drastically (to
> > my mind) changed ftp client. I read in the release notes the 2.2.7-RELEASE
> > has an ls command with many new options. Excuse me - but now I seem to be
> > irritated. Where does FreeBSD go? Will it leave the traditional BSD line
> > which seems to be strong argument for using FreeBSD?
> 
> No.  I think you're over-reacting to a few cosmetic changes.  Many
> people LIKE the new changes to FTP.  Many people have requested a
> *new* flag for ls (which nobody is forced to use) which would allow
> filenames with weird characters in them to be displayed properly.
> 
> Don't mistake "traditionalism" for "stagnation" since the latter
> is what you appear to be arguing for.

Your mail represents most replies in the most concise way so I will only
reply to your's - I don't want to flood the list with replies.

Ok, my first mail was a little bit provoking. I don't want stagnation. I
don't want to blame Linux in a non-objective way. But as far as I know
Berkeley's CSRG always was careful and not including all the numberless
possible options and utility improvements one can imagine. Who should read
the resulting infinite and confusing man pages? I hope the FreeBSD team
will keep that tradition and I'm optimistic. 

Konrad Heuer

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