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Date:      Mon, 10 May 1999 20:24:00 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
To:        otter@tig.com.au
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Very basic questions...
Message-ID:  <199905110024.UAA29789@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510173530.007b2350@pop.tig.com.au> from "otter@tig.com.au" at "May 10, 99 05:35:30 pm"

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Speaking of religious propaganda...

otter@tig.com.au wrote,
> At 01:04 10-05-99 -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
  >[Attribution lost earlier in thread]
> >> are taking advantage
> >>of it, by selling a little book with the cd and avoiding violation of its
> >>GNU policy by saying "The customer is not paying for Linux, they are
> >>paying for the book".
> >
> >Actually, GNU licence explicitly says that software covered by it may be
> >sold as long as it includes the source code. 
> <snip>
> Of course, that is true of the BSD
> >licence as well. But the BSD licence does not take the rights of the
> >programmer away.
> 
> How does Copyleft take the rights of the programmer away?  If you want to
> alter, recompile and distribute, name the compile after yourself, charge
> what you like... just make the source available, to keep us from another
> gates of hell type scenario.
> 
> GNU 'free' means free speech, not free price.

The thing that programmers don't like that you have left out is that
the GNU license gives the recipient unlimited ability to distribute
the code. If I buy your code, I can redistribute it for free or fee. I
do _not_ need to alter it; I can distribute it exactly as I receive
it. To quote the GNU manifesto:

  "GNU is not in the public domain.  Everyone will be permitted to
modify and redistribute GNU, but no distributor will be allowed to
restrict its further redistribution.  That is to say, proprietary
modifications will not be allowed.  I want to make sure that all
versions of GNU remain free."

The only thing I cannot do is restrict redistribution on what I
copied/derived from GNU licensed code. And Stallman makes it clear
that he means 'free price' when he says 'free.' Read the manifesto.

(Before I get a response from one side or the other, this is a
statement of fact with no intended editorial comment to support or
oppose the GNU license.)
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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