Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:05:14 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org> To: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Cc: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commercial, Non-Hacker CD Distribution - A thought Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.970420185525.1362g-100000@thelab.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <335BEE23.5F4EE85F@konnections.com>
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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, mike allison wrote:
> I dunno Marc:
>
> Mike's perspective is that the ISVs, Linux Distributors and *BSD folks
> are at least partially in bed together. I can't say they're not. I
> can't say that they're convergent, but he insists that I'm wrong to say
> that they're divergent.
>
> He says they all talk and work together.....
>
> I dunno except, he's there and I'm not...
First of all...the whole thread went downhill the moment that
Michael entered the conversation with "fire in his eyes", which is sad ;(
Second of all...we're down to 'fueling the fire' and not really
accomplishing anything that I can see, so this is my last posting under
this topic...
Lastly...I think there may be alot going on behind the scenes that
the 'general population' is unaware of, as intimated by Jordan several
days ago. Some of this thread may have been reinventing a wheel that is
already rolling, but we won't know until we actually see that wheel :(
IMHO, Michael's whole argument against this thread was mostly likely
a result of him going into a defensive mode, thinking that we weren't
appreciatative of all the work he, and others, have put into the Linux
code. This was *not* meant to be the case...without the Linux code, I'd
never have looked at StarOffice in the first place, or, in some cases, be
able to run Netscape, or...*shrug*
Michael...as I told you in private email, I think the Linux emulation
code should be seen more as a means to an end instead of the end itself, and
it was that end that I was trying to ... stimulate discussions on. I don't
believe that we have much of a chance of getting FreeBSD out of the 'techies'
hands until we can get some more solid 'Windows' like software (SO being
used *merely* as an example)...the Linux emulation code, IMHO, is a means
to that end, as we can *at least* run the Linux applications *now*, while
attepmting to work with ISVs towards making Native ports.
Towards that end, WINE is another means to an ends...by providing
us a method of running existing software on what we *all* agree is a better
operating system...but I'd still rather run the software native to my
operating system of choice, and not emulate an operating system that I want
little to no part in *shrug*
The end...
>
> -Mike
>
> The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I don't want to run Linux, but its like IBM going out with this *great*
> > operating system (vs Windows) and trying to explain how ISVs won't port to
> > them because they have no market, *but*, hey, we can emulate Windows enough
> > to run all the latest MicroSloth products. Of course, what happens when
> > Windows changes their API just so slightly that the OS/2/Windows emulator
> > won't handle the newest code?
> >
> > *shrug*
> >
> > Marc G. Fournier
> > Systems Administrator @ hub.org
> > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
>
Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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