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Date:      Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:05:29 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Stephen Roome <steve@visint.co.uk>
To:        John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.0 -release ?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971204155518.649A-100000@dylan.visint.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3486d16b.53041676@mail.cetlink.net>

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On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, John Kelly wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:35:11 +0000 (GMT), Stephen Roome
> <steve@visint.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >Complaints offer opportunities you sound like you treat them as personal
> >attacks.
> 
> Not at all.  But when people, who paid nothing, say they'll switch to
> another OS if FreeBSD doesn't have so-and-so feature by such-and-such
> time, I say let them switch.

Oh agreed, although I've noticed before people taking things as personal
attacks.

> >I'd be happy to try to get the management here to pay more for a CD-ROM,
> >but after naming it _FreeBSD_ there's a little bit of a problem with that. 
> 
> The source code is freely available -- at zero price, what more can
> you ask for?

I could ask for lots more, but it would be rude. =)

> If you think BSDI or SCO does a better job then write them a big
> check.  But if you think FreeBSD is as good or better, especially
> considering you can do anything with the source code, how does your
> conscience allow you to use it in a commercial setting and sleep at
> night without offering a voluntary contribution towards continued
> development?

Personally, of the options I've looked into I am happiest with FreeBSD and
yes, I think it does the best job most times, and where it doesn't it
appears that FreeBSD tries to do the best job.

I'm not going to switch just because SMP isn't in release or stable, I run
two SMP machines here both with different versions of current, sometimes
they have problems. Today one of them crashed, it'd been up 60 days and it
was a hardware fault, the other is doing fine.

SMP may not be a 'released product' with support, and it didn't cost an
arm and a leg, but I'm prepared to make it work, and hopefully I'll bring
some bugs to light which can get fixed for future versions. Help in some
way perhaps ?

There isn't much of an option of paying more though. I can hassle the
boss, but it's not going to help. I can't donate any money, I can't even
afford a new motherboard to support the MMX processor I stupidly bought.

Like many small ISP's and almost any company, paying for anything is not
natural until it's time to go to court, donating money is just not going
to happen.

I don't like it, but until I've got a better paid job that's the way it
is.

	Steve.

--
Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd.
Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342
WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/




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