Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:12:37 -0500 (EST) From: jack <jack@germanium.xtalwind.net> To: Chris Tubutis <chris@tci.com> Cc: Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heavy on the Verbosity (was) Re: Annoying messages on startup.. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901171705270.53250-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> In-Reply-To: <36A25867.5EF5E5CE@tci.com>
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On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Chris Tubutis wrote:
> > Coming from someone who's spent the best part of last week trying to diagnose
> > various hardware & software problems on NT & Win'95 machines (to almost no
> > avail), I'd appreciate as much verbosity being left _in_ the kernel & FreeBSD
> > as possible... I'm fed up with seeing "Unknown error", or "Unknown errors
> > occured" or "Service Failed" and the like on competitor / other products...
> > Make them only 'if verbose' if you need to - just don't lose them
> > alltogether!... :)
>
> This is a very good point, something that I strongly agree with. As hard
> as I try not to, I find myself having to deal with products from Redmond
> while at work. Yeah, stuff like "Error connecting to database" tells me
> absolutely nothing and is frustrating as all Hell.
I think most of us have been there as some point and I totally
agree. It's just that in this case we're getting more than we
want at those times when we don't need it.
> Maybe a way to toggle the verbosity to suit individual
> preferences would be a good way to go?
It is keyed to bootverbose, but `or'ed with 1. Perhaps a
sysctl(8) knob, kern.verbosity, is worth thinking about.
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