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Date:      Fri, 08 Oct 1999 15:57:44 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Pedro Fernando Giffuni" <pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Targeting the server: Not such a good idea?
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.19991008155031.043f2ca0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <37FE1596.ACDA5DEE@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>
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At 11:02 AM 10/8/99 -0500, Pedro Fernando Giffuni wrote:

>We have good people, and they are working on what they do best. If we
>wanted to do intensive client side work, then we would have to find
>*other* people to do it because AFAIK our hands are full.

Then let's! As I've already mentioned, I'd like to facilitate and finance
some more work on FreeBSD via a new distribution. Maybe I could hire
some folks to do this, and get some volunteers too!

>Throwing away money and resources to the client is a nonsense. Have you
>installed linux on a laptop? 

Yes, and it was painful.

>Do you really think that other platforms
>(Redhat, for example) with much more resources than we have will
>actually displace M$ ? If this happens, which I sincerely doubt, it will
>be in many years. 

It won't happen at all unless we try, though!

>Unix is not meant for simple minded users.

Actually, it's better at self-maintaining than most OSes. I have clients
whose sites I visit once every quarter. The server hums away in the back
closet with NO maintenance. I've never seen a Windows system do that!
My simple-minded users PREFER UNIX.

>OTOH, all the efforts that RH and other companies are doing to improve X
>translate directly to us. We have the opportunity to see how they fall
>(GGI for example) and redo things better .
>
>Quite honestly Brett, I think you could better try to convince Corel,
>Oracle, IBM, and SGI that FreeBSD is the way to go for their server
>products. 

Does Corel have server products? (Other than Corel Linux itself, I don't
know of any.) It'd be great to get their CLIENT products onto FreeBSD
as a native port. But this would require gaining steam as a client OS.
And even then, they might not do it because they have foolishly bought
into Linux. 

As for the others -- yes, they should port their server stuff AND their
client stuff. Both. Otherwise, people who wish to run the same OS on
both client and server will pick something other than FreeBSD.

--Brett








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