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Date:      Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:08:28 -0800 (PST)
From:      Tyler McGeorge <millioncheese@yahoo.com>
To:        kstewart@urx.com, Eric De La Cruz Lugo <eric@iteso.mx>
Cc:        treznor@sunflower.com, millioncheese@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RIVA TNT2 AGP 16 MB Video Card quiestion an X-Server question.
Message-ID:  <20010302230828.49698.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <3AA01BFF.34C96CB1@urx.com>

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Well, currently, my FBSD machine doesn't run X. This
is because it has no working serial ports. And when I
upgrade it to a motherboard that could support a
mouse, I will also be making a Slackware Linux machine
for my personal *nix usage.

On a more important note, my FBSD server is about to
be transfered into a server cube. Happy days.
--- Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks to all of you for your responses I really
> apreciate it.!
> > 
> > The reason I want this kind of board is because
> its cheap for me, and
> > because I want good 2D and 3D capabilities on my
> FreeBSD BOX
> > Yes there is a prejuidce about using FreeBSD as a
> user machine because
> > everybody use it as a Server OS all the time, in
> my case I have used FreeBSD
> > for several Years (back to 1992) and since 1994 I
> have used, Slackware,
> > SuSE, Red-Hat, Debian, but I still like more
> FreeBSD :).
> 
> I am biased the same way. I tried Linux first almost
> exactly 2 years
> ago. Then, a friend from where I used to work
> brought over his 4-cd
> set of FreeBSD 2.2.8. I was comfortable out of the
> box with it. When
> 3.1 came out, I ordered the subscription from Walnut
> Creek. I could do
> all of the things using FreeBSD that I had gotten
> used to since I was
> introduced to unix on a Cray X/MP in 1988. The
> central code repository
> for the system was what I had gotten used to and
> really didn't believe
> in getting something here and something there and
> calling it a system.
> There was almost 40 years of programming code
> control built into that
> bias and you don't change them over night. I also
> really liked the
> port system. 
> 
> The systems I use have various levels of video cards
> and you can tell
> the difference in speed when you are scrolling in
> x-windows. The TNT2
> with 32MB seems to be just fine. I have a 4MB card
> in one system and
> it blinks during the scroll. I jumped around 16MB
> and don't have any
> idea about the speeds on that card.
> 
> > 
> > I want to use Xephem (Astronomical Software, with
> Hi Res images (stars,
> > planets, nebulae etc...) and simulations in 3D
> > I Want to use The GIMP (Graphic Image Manipulation
> Program)
> > I want to use, Galeon or Netscape
> > And maybe 1 or 2 3D games like Quake. MPEG or AVI
> video
> > Star Office and maybe Applixware
> > KDE 2 apps.
> 
> I just got kde-2.1 installed. I'm going to have to
> look at Xephem. I
> haven't found a game I was interested in that ran on
> the Unix side.
> With 30 GB ATA-100 drives being so cheap and needing
> more than one for
> fast buildworlds, adding an OS like Windows ME
> didn't hurt. When XP
> comes out, it will have connections to Windows 2000
> and I will be able
> to get rid of one of my multi-boots. The
> bank-on-line software only
> ran in the Win 9x environment. I ran the games in
> W2K.
> 
> There is a lot of 3-d mapping software out there
> that is open source.
> The 3-d with shading can produce an awesome looking
> local 3-d map. The
> mapping software installs on FreeBSD just fine but
> was probably
> developed on Linux. I may like FreeBSD much better
> but if Linux wasn't
> there, I wouldn't have the software I like to use.
> 
> > 
> > hope this info put things into perspective,
> besides, this phrase: "Turning
> > PCs into Workstations!"  itīs from FreeBSD doesnīt
> it?
> > 
> > But for the server side (for those who still see
> FreeBSD as a Server OS), I
> > want  to run a Webserver, FTP server and a Proxy
> and Firewall for my
> > internal Network (4 PCs) all this with a cable
> connection..
> 
> My system with Apache on it doesn't have x-windows
> installed. That
> keeps it clean, and fast :). The concept of running
> x on a web server
> reminds me of my objection of using Windows 2000 for
> the same purpose
> :).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kent
> 
> > 
> > greetings for all of you, from Merida, Yucatan,
> Mexico, The Maya Land.
> > 
> > Eric.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tyler McGeorge <millioncheese@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kstewart@urx.com>; Eric De La Cruz Lugo
> <eric@iteso.mx>
> > Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: RIVA TNT2 AGP 16 MB Video Card
> quiestion an X-Server question.
> > 
> > > This may seem like a strange question, and it is
> > > relatively off topic...But I run a 4MB 2d only
> video
> > > card in my FreeBSD machine, and even if I ran X,
> I
> > > wouldn't need more. I maybe losing your context
> with
> > > my prejudice that FreeBSD is, in general, used
> as a
> > > server machine and not a user machine... If you
> were
> > > to want a user machine, I would suggest
> Slackware
> > > Linux over FreeBSD.
> > > --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote:
> > > > >
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
> 
> mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com
> http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html
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