Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:39:03 +0900
From: "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@iDaemons.org>
To: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: portmgr@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org, nakai@FreeBSD.org, dr@domix.de, demon@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org, mi@aldan.algebra.com, ijliao@FreeBSD.org, andreas@FreeBSD.org, roman@xpert.com, greg@hewgill.com, jedgar@FreeBSD.org, jmz@FreeBSD.org, samy@goldmoon.org, dirk@FreeBSD.org, kanou@mil.allnet.ne.jp
Subject: Re: Introducing USE_BZIP2{CMD,LIB,RUN} and BZIP2BASE
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At Tue, 07 Aug 2001 20:32:32 +0300,
sobomax wrote:
> The plan is: we provide stub until there is significant demand for using
> latest ports collection on not-so-stable machines (4.3 before bzip2 MFC and
> down). Eventually we just delete the stub and remove obsolete
> LIB/RUN_DEPENDS from ports tree.
You seem to have defined "smooth deorbiting" as "sudden removal". I'd
redefine it as "gradual fadeout" and suggest introducing the new
variables again.
> It aren't rumours, but people's psychology. We've seen it in past and I sure
> will see in the future. Each time we are trying to get rid of them somebody
> pops up, who for some very solid reason can't upgrade but need an up-to-date
> ports collection, so after some maillist spammage we deciding to keep it for
> another couple of months. For example we still have some rudimentary support
> for aout in our bsd.port.mk, while 2.2.x is even more obsolete and
> unsupported than 3.x. This explains my resistance to introduction of another
> set of would-be-shortlived-bsd.port.mk-options.
Hah, it turned out that it was actually _your_ resistance after all.
Once we made an official announcement that we wouldn't support 3.x or
prior any more, we could kill obsolete variables at any time no matter
what they claim. It's easy to do it thanks to the variables; just
remove several lines from bsd.port.mk.
Also, I don't even consider half a year of life as shortlived. During
the period the new variables benefit porters by allowing them to write
bzip2 dependencies in much shorter, simpler and abstract idioms. It'd
certainly be better to have only several lines of code in bsd.port.mk
than having a useless stub port and stale dependencies for nothing,
IMHO.
Opinions, everyone?
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