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Date:      Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:55:49 -0500
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>, Jim Sander <jim@federation.addy.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: the finer points of cvsup...
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20010820125549.0111db68@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B814A67.D1B3CAA7@iowna.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10108201145330.10531-100000@federation.addy.com>

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Ditto. I quite agree with everything Jim has said.... the monthly update
increment makes most sense unless developing.

At 01:35 PM 8.20.2001 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
>Jim Sander wrote:
>>    Is it "better" to take a bunch of "small bites" by updating once a day,
>> or should I lean toward taking fewer "big bites" and update weekly?
>
>If you mean "better" for the servers/bandwidth, then "big bites" will be
>better. Each time you do a cvsup it has to go through the listing/detailing
>phase, which ties up bandwidth and resources on the server. The amount
>of traffic caused by actual downloads will be the same whether you cvsup
>every day or once a week, but the overhead will be ~7x worse if you do it
>daily.
>
>>    What's the story on '*default compress' - is it "better" to compress
>> even on a fast connection, or does that overhead tax the cvsup server?
>
>The example cvsup files request that compression be disabled if speed is
>T1 or faster. I'd assume that someone else has already done the math and
>decided that the benefits of compression are negated with a link faster
>than T1.
>
>>    I want to be as kind to the cvsup servers as possible, am not in a big
>> hurry, and have both CPU and bandwidth to spare at the time cvsup is going
>> to run. But I also want to have "reasonably" current src, ports, and doc.
>> If there's a burden to shoulder, I want it to be mine and not the cvsup
>> server's - I've had near zero trouble with the server I target, and will
>> do what I can to keep it that way.
>
>How often do you do upgrades? Personally, I only cvsup right before I'm
>planning to update the system. Mind you, I update about once a month.
>Ports are a different story. I think you could probably update your ports
>tree daily/weekly and it would be a reasonable thing to do. Unless you don't
>install/change your software often.
>All of this changes if you plan on developing for FreeBSD, in which case
>you probably need to cvsup daily.
>
>>    Any examples of what people are doing, and most importantly why you're
>> doing it that way, would be much appreciated.
>
>See above. In my personal case, I only cvsup when I'm planning to update.
>I use that same theory for both ports and the base system.
>
>-Bill
>
>-- 
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Server Admin

Sage-American
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