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Date:      Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:45:42 +0100
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3_L=2E_Orosz?= <lorosz@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Cc:        doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Text-covering and overlapping figure images
Message-ID:  <20010829014542.M46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <3B889388.5FF3B66B@suffolk.lib.ny.us>; from lorosz@suffolk.lib.ny.us on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 01:13:28AM -0500
References:  <3B889388.5FF3B66B@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 01:13:28AM -0500, L=E1szl=F3 L. Orosz wrote:
> There are some rendering problems with Figures 2.3 through 2.6: these
> figures are located over text fields.  Thus, the text underneath them
> cannot be read that jeopardizes the understandability of the whole
> chapter.  Furthermore, Figures 2.4 through 2.6 overlap to a degree that
> only parts of two figures can be seen.

Which browser and version are you using?

> In addition, I have some general observation as follows:
>=20
> The list of supported components is rather outdated.  Anything that is
> over five-year old should be put in an antiquated or legacy component
> category.  But, well established and upcoming new components should be
> listed.  Instead SCSI boards from the '80s and early '90s I like to see
> CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, CD-RW and DVD-RW units, USB and fire-wire components.

Do you mean the list in the Handbook, or HARDWARE.TXT that comes with
each release?

> Though, it may not be incorrect, but it is definitely unrealistic to try
> to install multiple operating systems on a 4GB hard drive in 2001.
> Obviously, using at least a 40GB hard drive in the example would be more
> realistic.  There is a similar problem with the space requirement.
> Nowadays, when a browser can take up close to 100MB, it is rather
> hopeless to try jam everything in 2GB!

Which parts of the Handbook are you referring to?

> I also find somewhat naive to assume that the DOS and Windoze duet would
> live in a studio apartment called C:.  I, for example, use C: through I:
> for them, and having root, home, usr and swap partitions for Linux, and
> have a tight 12GB left for FreeBSD.  I am really not sure that that
> amount will be enough in early 2002. =20

Depends what you're doing with it.  Until a few months ago I was doing
all my FreeBSD work on with 2 2GB disks.

> What perhaps is more important
> that this set up would force the description to deal with logical
> partitions, too.  What about bringing in the picture a second hard
> drive? =20

It's a complete bugger to document.  The installation material has to
walk a very narrow tightrope between being intelligible and short enough=20
that J.  Average user can understand it while being comprehensive enough
that it covers all the weird configurations and possibilities out there.

> Using the word slice is not a great help. =20

That's what FreeBSD calls them.  The reader has to get used to this at
some point down the line.

> It rather fogs the mental picture of disk utilization.  Is it=20
> fundamentally different from a partition? =20

FreeBSD Slice =3D=3D DOS Partition.

There is no DOS equivalent for a FreeBSD partition.

> Does FreeBSD requests using a contiguous disk region? =20

Yes, at least one partition.

> Has that region to be a primary partition,=20

Yes.

> or start on a primary partition, or can be a set of logical partitions? =
=20
> Using only primary partitions in the examples makes the description=20
> formally simpler, but leaves the subject incomplete.

FreeBSD must be installed on to at least one primary slice, a.k.a DOS
partion (which it will boot from).  Multiple FreeBSD partitions (and
therefore, filesystems and swap space) can be created within this
primary slice.

If you have primary or logical slices on the same (or other) disks then
they can also be used for FreeBSD.

I'm still working on the installation instructions.  Please check the
web site, as stuff is changing almost daily.  And, if possible, please
suggest changes that include replacement text.

N
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