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Date:      Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:33:26 +0100
From:      Melvyn Sopacua <freebsd-current@webteckies.org>
To:        richardcoleman@mindspring.com, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues
Message-ID:  <200312010033.30577.freebsd-current@webteckies.org>
In-Reply-To: <3FCA6891.1020400@mindspring.com>
References:  <200311281553.hASFrURT003309@siralan.org> <xzpbrqtepp5.fsf@dwp.des.no> <3FCA6891.1020400@mindspring.com>

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On Sunday 30 November 2003 23:00, Richard Coleman wrote:

> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:
> > Melvyn Sopacua <freebsd-current@webteckies.org> writes:
> >>Then you can just as easily nuke the entire mailer.conf principle and
> >> symlink bin/postfix to etc/rc.d/050.postfix.sh.
> >
> > This is actually one of the two recommended ways of starting postfix
> > (and the one I prefer).  The main reason for mailer.conf to exist is
> > that a lot of scripts have /usr/sbin/sendmail hardcoded and TPTB
> > decided that they didn't want to use 'use.perl port'-style symlinks.
> >
> > DES
>
> But all these seem like such hacks.  It would be so much cleaner to move
> sendmail.sh out of the way and just add postfix.sh to /etc/rc.d, rather
> than using tricks with symlinks and rc.conf variables.

Symlinks have the added advantage that you can easily see what you've done=
=20
using ls(1) - unlike /usr/sbin/sendmail being a shell script. In this=20
specific case, postfix already supports the 'start' and 'stop' arguments, s=
o=20
there's no need for a wrapper script translating arguments.

> If you have a=20
> small number of ports added, it's not a big deal.  But all these hacks
> get confusing when you have a lot of ports, each doing it's own special
> trick.

Isn't that *exactly why* ports should respect $PREFIX? At least than you kn=
ow=20
that startup scripts are in one place. Maybe all that is needed is a variab=
le=20
RCDIR?=3D etc/rc.d, for people who want to 'deviate' from this convention.

> The mailer.conf issue (for mail injection) is a separate issue and
> there's really no way around that.

Just to be clear: with 'nuke' I meant sendmail_enable=3D"NONE" in /etc/rc.c=
onf.
Very convenient I might add.

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Melvyn

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