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Date:      13 Mar 2002 14:24:24 -0800
From:      swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: /etc/make.conf question
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"Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net> writes:

> No matter, it's not good to publicly suggest non-standard procedures.

Wheewww.  Matthew and I can consider ourselfs fortunate that we made no
suggestions.

> Matthew's
> "make update buildworld kernel" is even worse as doing an update without
> knowing you are in the middle of a mass commit is one way to break a
> build.

Another way is to use the "standard procedure".  It's still not clear to
me how four steps is better than one, at least until I understand how to
avoid the mid-commit problem.

> Better to pull and wait at least a short time before building to ensure
> one has all the commits of a change.

The wait won't ensure that, of course.  How DOES one ensure that?

> Of course most don't know pulling sources again and then trying the
> build once more *before* complaining of breakage *should* be the first
> thing to do, so there are many false alarms.  8-)

If *some* observed a common problem and knew how to *avoid* it, *they'd*
write a *PR* on the handbook (or other document).  I think that's a
*standard procedure*.

If someone knows, suggest it here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html

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