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Date:      Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:20:28 -0600
From:      Kevin Lyons <klyons@corserv.com>
To:        Ryan Sommers <ryans@gamersimpact.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Re; tcsh is not csh
Message-ID:  <4194D4BC.3060103@corserv.com>
In-Reply-To: <4194CA3E.4010601@gamersimpact.com>
References:  <419406E5.6050902@corserv.com> <4194CA3E.4010601@gamersimpact.com>

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Ryan Sommers wrote:

> How many programs does this incompatability actually break? 
> Realistically? If it hasn't been a problem in the last 4 years it makes 
> me wonder if anyone is actually writing or using shell scripts written 
> for this.

I think it is a mistake to say that just because this is the first time 
a complaint was make on hackers that this is the first time this has 
occured.  The script I showed previously was pretty basic; easily 
capable of breaking many csh scripts.  This is how it looks so far:

OpenBSD - works
NetBSD - works
Irix 6.5 - works
Sun OS - works
HPUX - not tried yet
AIX - not tried yet
FreeBSD - does not work (they knew better and renamed tcsh csh rather 
than just calling a spade a spade, some commit bit vandal got a hair to 
rename parts of the world for the sake of mankind.)
linux - not tried yet

> I'm not opposed to adding a real csh to /bin, but if we're only adding 
> it to work around a minor incompatability that few if any programs rely 
> on I don't see it as being a necessity.

And the microsoft mentality lives on.  God help freebsd.





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