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Date:      Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:14:59 +0930
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org
Subject:   Re: AltQ + ng_iface
Message-ID:  <200507291115.06612.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <42E98725.1020600@mac.com>
References:  <200507290834.10268.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200507291035.46770.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <42E98725.1020600@mac.com>

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On Friday 29 July 2005 11:02, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Either the "established" or the "tcpflags !syn,ack" keywords in a rule
> adding matching packets to a high-priority queue ought to do it...?  Or
> perhaps you meant something more specific than just "TCP packets with
> TH_ACK" set?  :-)

Hmm, I guess you could make those skip the pipe..

> Anyway, I'm not convinced that trying to classify packets within an
> established TCP connection in order to place them on different queues is a
> really good idea, since you're quite likely to reorder the packets by doi=
ng
> so.  I'd expect both latency and bandwidth of a TCP connection to suffer
> very noticably if more than 10% or so of the packets arrive out of order.=
=2E.

The theory is that by prioritising outgoing ACKs you don't cause downstream=
=20
delays when your upstream is full. eg
http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri.html

> [ Hmm.  I suppose that one could make an exception to the above
> generalization if URG was set, but the TCP stack already makes an effort =
to
> prioritize and deliver out-of-band urgent stuff as quickly as possible,
> anyway, right? ]

Maybe, but it doesn't appear to do a particularly good job for a lot of=20
situations :)

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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are so many of them to choose from."
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