Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:16:02 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@flat.berklix.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! Message-ID: <200609151616.k8FGG23C065997@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <450AA29D.9000700@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20060909182831.GA32004@FS.denninger.net> <200609100159.k8A1xAIn089481@drugs.dv.isc.org> <d6895b7d0609140844re8260fel953ddfeff0a9edf8@mail.gmail.com> <450AA29D.9000700@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= wrote: > Jamie Bowden schrieb: > > On 9/9/06, Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org> wrote: > > > >> > Yeah, -STABLE is what you should run if you want stable code, right? > >> No. STABLE means STABLE API. > >> If you want stable code you run releases. Between releases > >> stable can become unstable. Think of stable as permanent > >> BETA code. Changes have passed the first level of testing > >> in current which is permanent ALPHA code. > > No, this is what it means now. [...] > Why do you say "No" if you mean "Yes, but in former times ..."? Stable is a misnomer that harms FreeBSD somewhat. A promoter of FreeBSD I know has long encouraged people to upgrade from release to stable. Some don't & won't realise Stable is Not necessarily Stable, & may get burnt. Much of the world speaks English only as a 2nd language. They won't benefit from the double trouble of foreign + weird BSD geek speak: "Stable isn't Stable ? Yes or No !" "It's stable, but it's OK to crash ? - I'll go Linux !" Imagine a boat labelled Stable: It sinks. The designers claim: "Tough! We left the Application Interface (routes to bars & toilets) stable, but changed other stuff. Hey ! Stable never meant Stable ! It'd be some work to eradicate the misnomer, but the name's perhaps less entrenched than one might guess, eg: ftp ftp.freebsd.org cd /pub/FreeBSD dir lrwxr-xr-x 1 ftpuser ftpusers 19 Mar 24 14:58 FreeBSD-stable -> branches/4.0-stable cd FreeBSD-stable 550 No such directory. -- Julian Stacey. BSD Unix C Net Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen http://berklix.com Mail Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Don't buy it ! Get it free ! http://berklix.org/free-software
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