Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:29:36 -0400 From: "Eric Furman" <ericfurman@fastmail.net> To: "Holger Kipp" <holger.kipp@alogis.com>, "Daniel Bolgheroni" <me@dbolgheroni.eng.br> Cc: Michal <michal@sharescope.co.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, OpenBSD Advocacy <advocacy@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: Open Vs Free BSD Message-ID: <1245662976.25920.1321530053@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <4A3F46F2.7020904@alogis.com> References: <735E59909DEB44AF92825EA7C65CF430@ionicoffice.ionic.co.uk> <20090619095832.GA58127@intserv.int1.b.intern> <alpine.BSO.2.00.0906230151390.16790@mobile.my.domain> <4A3F46F2.7020904@alogis.com>
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BWAAAHAHAHAHAH, what a bunch of retards Please stop sending this crap to OBSD lists. On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:55:14 +0200, "Holger Kipp" <holger.kipp@alogis.com> said: > Daniel Bolgheroni schrieb: > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Holger Kipp wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 09:47:35AM +0100, Michal wrote: > >> > >> For the masses: > >> > >> - NetBSD: Run on any hardware (including toasters) > >> - OpenBSD: Be as secure as possible > >> - FreeBSD: provide best system for x86-platforms > >> > > > > It's a mistake to make this association. > > > I don't think so: > > *NetBSD say on their website:* > NetBSD is a free, fast, secure, and _highly_portable_ Unix-like Open > Source operating system. It is available for a > _wide_range_of_platforms_, from large-scale servers and powerful desktop > systems to handheld and embedded devices. Its clean design and advanced > features make it excellent for use in both production and research > environments, and the source code is freely available under a > business-friendly license. > > *OpenBSD say on their website:* > The OpenBSD project produces a *FREE*, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based > UNIX-like operating system. Our efforts emphasize portability, > standardization, correctness, proactive security > <http://www.openbsd.org/security.html>; and integrated cryptography > <http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html>. > > *FreeBSD say on their website:* > FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for _x86_compatible (including > Pentium. and Athlon^(TM)), _amd64_compatible_ (including Opteron^(TM), > Athlon^(TM)64, and EM64T), ARM, IA-64, PowerPC, PC-98 and UltraSPARC. > architectures. > [..] > With over 20,000 ported libraries and applications > <http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html>, FreeBSD supports > applications for desktop, server, appliance, and embedded environments. > > > Actually I like it this way, because every BSD variant has a different > focus and is trying different ways to solve problems or fullfill user > requirements. Whatever turns out to be best will be incorporated into > the other *BSDs whenever the need arises. Each of the mentioned BSDs has > its advantages and disadvantages, so what? Choose the system you seem > best suited for your needs. Afaik some developers are also working on > several BSD-flavours. > > OpenBSD people chose "security" as an argument to describe what the OS > > is. It's true and I believe it can attract more users, but on the other > > side, people seem to think OpenBSD is ONLY used when you need security, > > like a firewall, router, etc. > > > OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD but is having more of a focus on security. > This is a good thing. We might not have OpenSSH, PF etc. without it. > Afaik OpenBSD however is using a simple Giant Lock for MP which FreeBSD > got rid of some time ago (wasn't an easy task) which now results in very > good scalability of FreeBSD on MP systems. I have not checked how NetBSD > is handling MP and have also not conducted any performance tests in this > area, though. > > OpenBSD is a GENERIC OS which can be used to do _almost_ every task a > > computer system is able to. > > > This is true for all unix-like (and many other) operating systems. I > don't see the point here. > > The OP did not intend to start a flame war, and I don't either. I like > OpenBSD (because of the security features and supported platforms). I > like NetBSD (because of the supported platforms - especially RiscPCs - > and the clean implementation). I like FreeBSD because of the many > available ports (which in the past was a reason to choose FreeBSD over > NetBSD or OpenBSD on x86-hardware) and for other reasons. There is no > general "a is better than b" here. It all depends on the requirements > and what you're familiar with. > > I prefer FreeBSD because I have ipf, ipfw and pf to chose from, it has > good MP support, ZFS and never let me down since 2.2.8. > I also use OpenBSD and NetBSD occasionally and support their projects by > buying their CDs and T-Shirts ever now and then. > > Best regards, > Holger >
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