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Date:      Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:40:53 +0000
From:      "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>, Peter Grehan <grehan@freebsd.org>, Michael Dexter <editor@callfortesting.org>
Subject:   Re: [CFT] bsdinstall and zfsboot enhancements
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:

> On 11/11/13 14:30, Teske, Devin wrote:
>> (disabling default gpg-signing until they fix a bug with the quoting)
>>=20
>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Michael Dexter wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hello all,
>>>=20
>>> I have been experimenting with various BSD and GNU/Linux boot media
>>> under bhyve and noticed that we may want to accommodate the "LiveCD"
>>> mode of the installer, which in turn requires the correct console.
>>>=20
>>> Currently, one is prompted for VT100 for installation but this does not
>>> appear to work/stick for LiveCD mode.
>>>=20
>>> Can anyone verify this?
>>>=20
>> Sorry, I mistook your issue in the previous e-mail to be on-going with t=
he
>> thread it was inline with.
>>=20
>> "LiveCD" changes things a bit.
>>=20
>> (thinks)
>>=20
>> I would expect that a prompt could do:
>>=20
>> 	1. modify /etc/ttys on the boot media
>> 	2. run "init q"
>>=20
>> But there's a couple of assumptions...
>>=20
>> 	3. Can we even write to /etc/ttys?
>> 	NB: We can write to /tmp because it's an md0 swap device
>>=20
>> So do we have to get fancy with slipping a unionfs layer backed by anoth=
er
>> md swap device above the root?
>>=20
>> That would make every file on the boot media writable (writes would go to
>> the swap-backed md device and if you execute "rm -fW file" you can get b=
ack
>> files that have been previously unlinked -- unlinks are stored as whiteo=
uts in
>> the swap backed md device). For all intents and purposes, the read-only =
file-
>> system becomes writable and we could then munge /etc/ttys to enable seri=
al
>> only when a menu item is chosen.
>>=20
>> If I'm off-base, let me know... sounds like a lot of trouble.
>>=20
>> The alternative being that you enable serial by default but then I have =
to tell
>> field engineers to unplug barcode readers before they do an install??? (=
that's
>> a question, it may be entirely safe, but I've never tried, seems unsafe)
>>=20
>> Question is, how would you disable it? Goes back to writable filesystem.
>=20
> This is why I don't think we want to modify /etc/ttys. Instead we want to=
 have init do the right thing (follow the boot console) with a single uncha=
nged /etc/ttys.

Let me see if I've got it right...

Already-knowns:
+ The boot variables are influenced by loader.conf which is read-only media.
+ But Michael is loading the media from bhyve.

Question:
Does bhyve set kern.console irrespective of loader.conf values?

If so, then yeah... I'm all for supporting your stated Option-A in the othe=
r thread.
--=20
Devin

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