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Date:      Sun, 1 Jun 2014 14:58:12 -0400
From:      Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Upgrading an i386 machine from amd64.
Message-ID:  <50E51CBE-7F7B-4093-86A5-320ACE81072E@dataix.net>
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> On Jun 1, 2014, at 14:51, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:
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>> On 6/1/14, 11:42 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>> That would be nice. Could've swore there was something similar to that bu=
t memory escapes me as I haven't done backwards cross compiles in awhile.
>>=20
>> Curious have you done a svn status on your src tree in a while to see if t=
here are any stale depends laying around that may affect the compilation ?
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> I use git. :)  But the build tree was completely clean.
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>> Also ALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE=3DYES defined in make.conf ?=20
> No, what does that do?=20

Instructs the top-level Makefile to check if make(1) is up-to-date. Not sure=
 if it really would have an effect on a cross build but worth a shot.
make.conf(5) holds a better definition of it.

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> I think once I get this sorted I will make a blog post on it, right now th=
at blog post is basically:
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> export TARGET=3Di386
> make buildworld -j36
> make buildkernel -j36
> mkdir -p /mnt/target.local /mnt/target
> make installkernel installworld DESTDIR=3D/mnt/target.local
> mount i386target:/ /mnt/target
> rsync -avvH /mnt/target.local /mnt/target
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> I thought though there was a way to get this to work, obviously there is a=
 bug here that we lose "chflags" bits on install.  I wonder if there's a way=
 to restore or preserve them?

rsync(1) can be build from ports with the chflags patch that should aid in p=
reserving them.

rsync --fileflags  . . .=20

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> -Alfred
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>> --=20
>>  Jason Hellenthal
>>  Voice: 95.30.17.6/616
>>  JJH48-ARIN
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>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 14:24, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:
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>>>> On 6/1/14, 10:34 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>>> What if you just NFS mount the obj directory from the 386 to the amd64 b=
uild world for 386 the mount the src on the i386 and just rebuild strip and f=
riends ?
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>>>> A little more of a hack i know but would get the job done.
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>>> I tried that using install(1), then it broke with strip(1), then I basic=
ally was like, "this is a rabbit hole, forget it" and used rsync.
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>>> I was really looking for a "buildinstalltools" or something target (as y=
ou suggest), but I couldn't find one.
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>>> Is there an "buildinstalltools" target?=20
>>>=20
>>> -Alfred
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>>>> --=20
>>>>  Jason Hellenthal
>>>>  Voice: 95.30.17.6/616
>>>>  JJH48-ARIN
>>>>=20
>>>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 13:25, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello hackers.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Is there a way to build on amd64 and then mount over nfs the build and=
 src and installworld from an i386 machine?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The problem seems to be that "install" and "strip" and etc are built a=
s amd64 binaries so that the installworld will fail.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Below I have a solution I was going to do a blog post about, but then r=
ealized maybe I'd be leading people down the wrong path.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Can someone verify that I need to use rsync as opposed to installworld=
 for this to work?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I have an old i386 based soekris geode box called "soekris":
>>>>> CPU: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (499.91-MHz 586-class C=
PU)
>>>>>  Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD"  Id =3D 0x5a2  Family =3D 0x5  Model =3D 0x=
a Stepping =3D 2
>>>>> Features=3D0x88a93d<FPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CLFLUSH,MMX>
>>>>>  AMD Features=3D0xc0400000<MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow!>
>>>>> real memory  =3D 536870912 (512 MB)
>>>>> avail memory =3D 502792192 (479 MB)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Building on this machine is difficult because of the speed and lack of=
 space, so I decided to use my more powerful amd64 machine "spigot":
>>>>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (3392.37-MHz K8-class CPU=
)
>>>>>  Origin=3D"GenuineIntel"  Id=3D0x206a7  Family=3D0x6  Model=3D0x2a Ste=
pping=3D7
>>>>> ...
>>>>> real memory  =3D 17179869184 (16384 MB)
>>>>> avail memory =3D 16585228288 (15816 MB)
>>>>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads
>>>>>=20
>>>>> So I've built an 10-stable on the amd64 machine using:
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>>>>> spigot % TARGET=3Di386
>>>>> spigot % make -j24 buildworld
>>>>> spigot % make -j24 buildkernel
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Works great, I get an i386 object tree under /usr/obj/i386.386/...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Then I go to install this over NFS and this is where I get stuck.
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>>>>> If I mount the i386 machine like so and install I get errors on libc a=
nd other libraries:
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>>>>> spigot % mount soekris:/ /usr/soekris
>>>>> spigot % cd /usr/src && make installworld
>>>>> .....
>>>>> =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcrypt (install)
>>>>> install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444   libcrypt.a /usr/soekris/usr/lib
>>>>> install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444   libcrypt_p.a /usr/soekris/usr/lib=

>>>>> install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libcrypt.so.5 /usr/soekri=
s/lib
>>>>> install: /usr/soekris/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Input/output error
>>>>> *** Error code 71
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[5]: stopped in /usr/trees/freebsd.git/lib/libcrypt
>>>>> *** Error code 1
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>>>>> OK, so that doesn't work...
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>>>>> Maybe if I mount the amd64 build host under the soekris box, no that b=
reaks because the bootstrap tools (install(1), strip(1)) are built for amd64=
 so the install fails.
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>>>>> So what I finally did on the amd64 box was:
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>>>>> spigot % mkdir /use/soekris.local
>>>>> spigot % make installworld DESTDIR=3D/usr/soekris.local
>>>>> spigot % mount soekris:/  /usr/soekris
>>>>> spigot % rsync -avvH /usr/soekris.local/ /usr/soekris/
>>>>>=20
>>>>> That hung at the end forever at the end:
>>>>> var/unbound/
>>>>> var/yp/
>>>>> var/yp/Makefile
>>>>> var/yp/Makefile.dist
>>>>> ....
>>>>>=20
>>>>> but after giving it an hour I just hit ^C and rebooted and everything w=
as more or less fine.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Is there a better way to do this?  Was the "installworld to NFS" break=
ing because of NFS bugs?  Should I get those to Rick?  I'm just confused.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -Alfred
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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