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Date:      Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:31:46 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Ganesh Kumar <alganesh@m-net.arbornet.org>
To:        Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I KINDLY NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE
Message-ID:  <20020806122816.X43080-100000@m-net.arbornet.org>
In-Reply-To: <86n0s12mgo.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com>

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Thats a good suggestion Ken :) But the problem is with
"communication".When I was taking care of mail servers,we got spam(and
email bombs too) from a particular webhost.But making the admin understand
our problem was a pain for me ! (bcos,it originated from taiwan )

If someone can block the legitimate spams to the list (from freebsd group)
atleast and prevent mails from
that address alone,would save us :)

cheers
Ganesh Kumar


On 5 Aug 2002, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

> Ganesh Kumar <alganesh@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>
> | Can anyone give suitable suggestions for stopping [spam]?
>
> Mail filters generate too many false positives, don't screen out all the spam,
> and still permit the traffic to occupy your network.
>
> The spam isn't the problem---the ISPs who operate open relays or who permit
> spammers to stay on their networks are.  The only viable solution I've found is
> to block the spammers at the connection level.
>
> Since midnight, August 1, I've blocked 82 spams.  50 of those were spam
> attempts from South Korea, 8 from China, 3 from quixnet.net, one from ttd.es,
> one from t-dialin.net, and the other 18 were blocked by spamcop.net's blackhole
> service.
>
> My bounce messages (the ones that are blocked by my list rather than external
> blackhole lists) include a sneakemail.com contact address, so that anyone
> trying to send legitimate email can still contact me---but I can deactivate
> that address quickly if someone tries to use it for spamming.
>
> That's 82 spams that never made it onto my network in 4.5 days, with no false
> positives.  Pretty cool.
>
> Of course, my little collection of domains aren't well-trafficked, like
> freebsd.org, so they probably couldn't afford to be as draconian as I've been.
> I've blocked some major ISPs in other countries that just couldn't get their
> crap together (wanadoo.fr, for example), and then some countries were just such
> humongous sources of spam that I started blocking them entirely.
>
> If I do get a responsible admin (it's happened---once) writing me over the
> sneakemail.com address, and I'm satisfied they're sincere and responsive, I
> unblock their net.
>
> The only way I can see that will actually stop spam is if enough people block
> spam at the connection level that ISPs are forced to clean up their act.  I do
> wish the FreeBSD people would do so on their mailing lists, which are popular
> enough that it would surely create customer pressure on the offending ISPs.
>
> But I'm not in charge of that.  :)
>


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