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Date:      Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:00:49 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Use of the UNIX Trademark
Message-ID:  <20011018110048.B95006@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <87adyq2md5.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com>; from mcglk@artlogix.com on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:43:34AM -0700
References:  <01100820163507.00577@gunnar.weygold.edu> <000501c15083$5f1787c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20011010133330.I82541@wantadilla.lemis.com> <87adyq2md5.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com>

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On Wednesday, 17 October 2001 at 10:43:34 -0700, Ken McGlothlen wrote:
> Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>
>> Nobody's denying that there was a BSD UNIX.  The question is, is FreeBSD BSD
>> UNIX?  The answer is "no".  With the removal of the last of the AT&T code
>> from BSD, it lost the right to be called UNIX.  I believe this was also part
>> of the out-of-court settlement with AT&T.
>
> UNIX ["UNIX" is a registered trademark of The Open Group] is mostly dead at
> this point.  But the trademark can still bite you in the rear, thanks to The
> Open Group ["The Open Group" is a registered trademark of The Open Group].
>
> That's okay, though.  Its progeny live on, free and unencumbered.  I'm pretty
> sure we can say:
>
>         FreeBSD has its historical roots in BSD UNIX 4.4 (UNIX is now a
>         registered trademark of The Open Group), and is. . . .
>
> After that point, you refer to it as a BSD operating system, or possibly a
> Un*x-style operating system ["Un*x" is probably not a registered trademark of
> The Open Group].  Of course, we can get caught if "BSD" is a trademark.  Is it?
> Whoops.  Has anyone checked?

Yes, of course.  It belongs to Wind River Systems.  We have permission
to use it.

Greg
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