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Date:      Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:46 -0500
From:      Jason Crawford <jasonrcrawford@gmail.com>
To:        Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
Cc:        Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Adaptec AAC raid support
Message-ID:  <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com>
References:  <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com>

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I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the
fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only
management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change
something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or
just experiment, as well as just develop/use a different management
utility. This is not FUD, but fact. An unacceptable fact. Talking
about how other raid controllers work with FreeBSD too has nothing to
do with what I said, except that they too are binary-only
no-free-documenation vendors at this point as well.


On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:20 -0500, Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote:
> > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of
> > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID
> > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would
> > have pushed for open docs a long time ago.
> 
> FUD check:
> 
> FreeBSD works quite well with RAID products from 3ware, Promise, and
> Highpoint to my direct knowledge, as well as Adaptec's, and I've seen
> dmesg's on had accounts on systems using Mylex and LSI controllers.  I
> am not as sure about the Qlogic and DPT brands.
> 
> Things aren't perfect-- I lost a 4-disk * 120GB RAID-10 array on a
> HPT-370 about a year ago, and was very fortunate to have had good
> backups, but I can't truly blame FreeBSD's ATA/RAID implementation,
> since I'd used the HPT BIOS to do the rebuild rather than atacontrol.
> 
> Next time I'll buy a 3ware or Promise card, though, not use a MB-based
> HPT controller...
> 
> --
> -Chuck
> 
>



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