Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:46:02 -0800 From: Arun Sharma <arun@sharmas.dhs.org> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible problem with SMP? Message-ID: <20010216104602.A10715@sharmas.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <95910.982318022@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 02:07:02AM -0800 References: <adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org> <95910.982318022@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
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On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 02:07:02AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I sent patches for this (both xosview and per CPU sysctls) last year, but > > no one responded. I'd agree that there is a value to keeping the commit > > privileges to a few "commiters". But I find the fact that patches posted > > to the list go unanswered/ignored discouraging for new contributors and > > when it happens repeatedly, a bit insulting too. > > I'm sorry that your PRs were ignored - could you perhaps cite the PR > numbers so that I can unearth these again? I did in a subsequent follow up. > Sometimes people and > patches simply slip through the cracks and it's not through lack of > people *wanting* to keep up with submissions. There are certain > frailties in volunteer-driven structures like ours and this is one of > them, as much as I hate to say it. What the PR system does at least > do for us is allow us to pull up the PRs in quesiton now and try to > deal with them in "better late than never" fashion. I'm not alleging malicious intent nor am I saying that the FreeBSD repository should be open to everone to commit. If I look at the changes happening to the FreeBSD source base, most of them happen from the commiters, and I see hardly any patches being posted here from outsiders and occasional tinkerers (let me say it anyway - like it happens on the Linux mailing lists). > > If it's also clear that a lot of your PRs are logjamming in the > system, asking to for such commit "privileges" yourself is the > time-honored way of going about doing it. All you need is for one of > the almost 250 other committers to be willing to "mentor" you in your > application and that's something many of them are very willing to do. > That I think would require a level of commitment that I may not be able to provide, given my day time job. All I'm saying is, please do something about: (a) Making sure that patches posted here get tested and responded to. (b) Encourage people to post patches. Some of them will be good and some bad - but as long as there is a process to filter out the bad and misguided ones, it could do wonders to the source base, as well as to the general FUD that the "BSD camp is elitist and cliquish". -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message
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