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Date:      Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:49:08 -0700
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>
To:        Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: XML Output: libxo - provide single API to output TXT, XML, JSON and HTML
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On Jul 27, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com> wrote:

> It would be great if libyaml and libucl would converge, but instead =
it's
> likely that the number of solutions trying to solve the same problem =
will
> continue to proliferate, and we are stuck with more and more =
configuration
> file formats :-(

I=92m a huge fan of unified data formats; Apple picked XML and the plist =
DTD a long time ago, a decision which has worked rather nicely in =
practice, but I=92m more in love with the unification that produced than =
I am in love with XML itself.  That said, it seems like this late push =
for YAML is a similar case for divergence just because=85erm=85 you =
don=92t like JSON?  It seems like libucl has basically backed JSON with =
the addition of a little syntactic sugar, so what=92s wrong with that?

Is there some reason JSON is not sufficient?  I think that=92s a better =
question to ask, since the conversation otherwise quickly tends to sound =
a little like =93I=92ll accept any single unified format as long as it=92s=
 the specific one I like!=94 :)   I think the greater good argument =
would suggest just picking one that=92s expressive enough (roll a pair =
of dice), put on your bikeshed-proof sunglasses, and proceed.

- Jordan




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