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Date:      Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:25:28 +0800
From:      Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
To:        "ETHAN HOUSE (RIT Student)" <ewh2048@rit.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Base System Rebuild
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Hi,

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:07:54 -0800
"ETHAN HOUSE (RIT Student)" <ewh2048@rit.edu> wrote:

> The VMHost is on a journaled file system so that shouldn't happen.
> It's also on a UPS.
> 
so, to what do you have access? To the host or to the virtual machine
inside?

You should never get affected by any file system problems of the host
except that your imagine will crash.

> It was setup on a single partition, so newfs is not possible.

You learned now the hard way that it is better to have several
partitions. A system with partitions for /, swap, /tmp, /var, /usr and
home has a much higher chance to avoid the problem you got caught in.
Of course, setting it up takes a bit more time.

Erich
> 
> Ethan House
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Erich Dollansky <
> erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:46:52 -0800
> > "ETHAN HOUSE (RIT Student)" <ewh2048@rit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > It was a VM.
> >
> > you mean that it is?
> > >
> > > Problem is the person who set up this machine had never used
> > > FreeBSD before and made a lot of really weird mistakes. I think
> > > the best course of action is to just create a new VM image and
> > > start from scratch.
> >
> > But damaging the file system should have nothing to do with it.
> > With an UPS, the file system only gets damages when the kernel
> > crashes with open writes.
> >
> > If possible, I would not install a new image but try to do a newfs
> > on as many partitions as possible. If the machine is setup with the
> > new approach of having only one partition, this is not possible.
> >
> > Erich
> >
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