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Date:      Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:37:09 -0700
From:      "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Cassiano Peixoto <peixotocassiano@gmail.com>, Alexander Shitov <sa.inbox@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 11.0-RELEASE Status Update
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From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.org>
To: Cassiano Peixoto <peixotocassiano@gmail.com>,
 Alexander Shitov <sa.inbox@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: 11.0-RELEASE Status Update
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If memory serves me right, Cassiano Peixoto wrote:
> Looks we have some import issues to be fixed before 11-RELEASE. I have
> another one that nobody cares:
>=20
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213257
> and
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D212413
>=20
> It's affecting ALTQ users on both FreeBSD 11 and 10.3, the system just
> crash.
>=20
> IMHO would be better to release a stable product instead of keep the
> schedule.

There's always "just one more bug".  If the FreeBSD Project waited until
the code was bug-free there'd be no releases at all.

It's the Release Engineering team's job to make the call on which bugs
are worth holding up a release for and which aren't, when workarounds
are acceptable and when they need to try to pursuade a developer to
diagnose and implement a real fix, etc.  They need to use their
judgement about a number of factors such as severity, number of users
impacted, availability of developers, and so on.  The schedule is also a
factor, but it's never just for the sake of adhering to the schedule.

Bruce
(Ex-RE team member)

> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Alexander Shitov <sa.inbox@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>=20
>> Op 06/10/2016 om 22:18 schreef Glen Barber:
>>> As many of you are aware, 11.0-RELEASE needed to be rebuilt to addres=
s
>>> several issues that were discovered after the release was built. Extr=
a
>>> caution is being taken in testing the rebuilt releases, so at present=
,
>>> the final release announcement is planned for Monday, October 10.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your patience in waiting for 11.0-RELEASE.
>>>
>>> Glen > On behalf of: re@ >
>>
>> Is fix for Hyper-V bug "virtual disk being detached from the bus"
>> (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D7693)  included in final build?
>> PR https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D212721
>>
>> It will be big disappointment if 11.0-RELEASE will became incompatible=

>> with Hyper-V.
>>
>> ---
>> Best Regards,
>> Alexander
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