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Date:      Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:49:10 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        John Reynolds <johnjen@reynoldsnet.org>, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <x11@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Need help untangling Xorg behavior on Haswell board, KMS, etc. etc.
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1307231147210.59063@wonkity.com>
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Kevin Oberman wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
>       On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote:
>
>             On 2013-07-23 14:59, Warren Block wrote:
>                   On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote:
>
>                         In general, running without a xorg.conf should work, but there are a lot
>                         of different hardware and setups out there, and just because it works on
>                         Linux does not mean it works on FreeBSD without xorg.conf.  If you want
>                         to have more control of exactly what's going on, a config is probably to
>                         prefer.
>                         If you use xorg without HAL, you must have a config at least detailing
>                         your input devices for them to work properly.
> 
>
>                   My experience is that input device sections are not needed unless custom
>                   settings are needed in them. X autodetects them fine without HAL.
> 
>
>             I've had trouble in the past, at least with mice...
> 
> 
> Ah.  PS/2 mice, maybe?  I admit I have not tried one of those in a long, long time.
>
> 
> My T520 works well with the "PS/2 mouse". It's actually the TrackPoint mouse, but it looks like a PS/2 mouse to the system.
> 
> I needed nothing in my config. I am using moused. The only thing in my Xorg.conf file is a list of fonts that I have added.

moused is probably the important part there.  With USB mice, moused is 
started automatically by devd.
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