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Date:      Tue, 5 May 1998 17:53:12 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_=C5str=F6m?= <patrik.astrom@tv3.se>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, terry@whistle.com
Subject:   Re: Adding space to a CCD !
Message-ID:  <19980505175312.Z4777@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.980505011214.18134D-100000@current1.whistle.com>; from Julian Elischer on Tue, May 05, 1998 at 01:14:13AM -0700
References:  <19980505163525.P4777@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.3.95.980505011214.18134D-100000@current1.whistle.com>

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On Tue,  5 May 1998 at  1:14:13 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Mon,  4 May 1998 at 12:47:09 +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote:
>>> Patrik Åström wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi !
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to add a drive or a partion to a CCD without needing to
>>>> "rebuild" everything from scratch ?.
>>>>
>>>> I have a 4 GB CCD that's almost full and I would now like to add a
>>>> another 2 GB drive, but it would be great
>>>> if I could just add the drive and not need to re-partion it...
>>>>
>>>> Most grateful for any hints or suggestions...
>>>
>>> I used CCD's extensively on my system... The bad news is that they can't be
>>> 'built on the fly', you will need to backup the data on your existing CCD -
>>> add the new drive, reformat - and restore the data...
>>>
>>> Greg Lehey is working on a replacement driver for CCD which may let you do
>>> this in the future, no doubt if he sees this message he'll reply as
>>> well ;-)
>>
>> Correct.  See http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html for more details of
>> vinum.  It will allow expansion of concatenated plexes, but I
>> currently don't have any plans for direct reorganization of striped
>> and RAID5 plexes.  The feature is somewhat limited, since ufs
>> currently doesn't allow expansion.
>
> One slight correction there greg..
> terry pointed us at a program that expands UFS by adding cylinder groups.
> Maybe it (the mail) is in the archives somewhere.
> if not I've cc'd him.

Yes, I hadn't forgotten this.  But it's not currently in
FreeBSD-RELEASE, and since this is -questions, I didn't want to get
involved in discussions of what could be coming.  On the other hand,
then I shouldn't have been talking about vinum, so I suppose you're
right :-)

Greg
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