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Date:      Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:39:11 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "B. Richardson" <rabtter@aye.net>
To:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Timed out while idle :-(
Message-ID:  <Pine.SGI.3.95.980721153338.26912A-100000@orion.aye.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980721120122.22129E-100000@shell.uniserve.ca>

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Have only one drive per channel at the moment (still just testing),
therefore each drive should be terminated.

A lot of folks seem to be using the CAM drivers on adaptecs with
good success, just not me.

Brands that use the NCR 875 chipset? 

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Barrett Richardson        rabtter@orion.aye.net

On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Tom wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, B. Richardson wrote:
> 
> > Started out with 2.2.5 and an adaptec 2940 and two (unterminated)
> > Seagate drives and everything was fine. Added a 3940, a Quantum
> > drive, installed 2.2-19980629-RELEASE and cam drivers on 6/29.
> > The message below appeared. The quantum was terminated, the seagates
> > were not, so I terminated the seagates (at this point all three drives
> > were terminated via a termination block that was on an adapter that
> > the hotswappable drives plugged into). The ugly message came back,
> 
>   You can't just terminate at whim.  The last drive in a SCSI chain must
> be terminated.  No more, no less.  Terminating all drives is very bad.
> 
> > but not as quickly. After some juggling, I discovered that the
> > seagates were not happy being terminated with the termination block
> > on the hot swap adapters. I got some active terminators and terminated
> > a single seagate with it. Then the problem would alway appear on
> > places other than that drive so I thought it was fixed. As a final
> > test, I ran bonnie on with the two seagates only in the machine, each
> > on a separate channel, and each terminated with an active terminator.
> > The ugly message returned. Been struggling with it since 6/29 and
> > about to scrap the idea. This was to be a squid box (performs really
> > well until filesystems freeze) and this project is at the do or die
> > phase. My client is going back into the loop of proprietary 
> > hardware/software if I can't make it fly. If I can make it fly, they
> > want to build several large scale systems.
> 
>   I've always found Seagate drives to be stable with the Adaptec driver (I
> only use Barracuda 4XL or 4LP).  Quantum drives are another story.
> 
>   I would try an NCR 875 based card.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 


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