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Date:      Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:48:57 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, markm@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-ports@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit:  ports/security/SSLeay/files md5
Message-ID:  <199612130018.KAA08540@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961212103408.7479B-100000@maryann.eng.umd.edu> from Chuck Robey at "Dec 12, 96 10:40:11 am"

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Chuck Robey stands accused of saying:
> 
> I liked it, Mike, but I would personally like another option.  Right now,
> you can tell it to delete all the stale distfiles it finds.  My personal
> experience with telling programs to go ahead and do their worst is, well,
> the subject for horror stories.  I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm
> saying that it's probably asking for too much trust all at one time.

I agree entirely; that's why the default is to do nothing at all.

> Could it be modified to just squash one file at a time?  Lots of possible
> ways this could be done ... my favorite would be to ask me to highlight
> the candidate for deletion, and just delete that, but another would be to
> ask permission on each deletion, or maybe to have a user-settable flag to
> force asking permission on each deletion.  Maybe you'd have another idea,
> anything so long as it doesn't want to do everything at one fell swoop. 
> That makes my blood run cold. 

I've been trying to scome up with an interface model that makes it easy to :
 - Delete almost (but not quite) everything
 - Just delete a few selected items
 - Browse and modify easily your selected victims.

At the moment, my leaning is towards adding a [DELETE] tag in a suitably
loud colour to the right-hand list, that can be toggled by clicking, and 
thatn some controls for selecting all of one or more type.

There's room for binding lots of functionality to the browser, I'm just
not sure which functions are the most useful.  Input like yours is very 
helpful, thanks!

> Nice job, anyways.  Have you seen the newly released visual-tcl tool?

Indeed I have; it's mildly pretty, but IMHO not deserving of "release"
status yet.  Making menus, for example, is painful, and you should be
able to drag a link between a listbox or a text widget and a scrollbar
and have it do your bindings, etc.

I'm much more comfortable with XF, and XF is more extension-friendly too.
Having said that, I generally prefer to do my own interfaces anyway.

> Chuck Robey                 | Interests include any kind of voice or data 

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