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Date:      Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:27:36 -0400
From:      Corey Mosher <corey@interchange.ca>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Installation - More user friendly
Message-ID:  <404E36C8.70206@interchange.ca>
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What would actually be quite nice is to have a fancy GUI install in 
addition to the current one.  Then at the beginning of the install you 
can decide whether you really want to install FreeBSD or look at the 
pretty lights in the fancy GUI version.  Option 1 is choose the current 
way, option 2 is go the GUI method.  This gives people the flexible "old 
fashioned" way to install while at the same time getting people through 
the install who may be less experienced buy using the GUI version.

I think in general though, most people who install FreeBSD are capable 
enough that they know what they are doing once you read the docs and 
follow the onscreen instructions.

Corey

Jud wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:28:44 -0500, Parv <parv@pair.com> wrote:
> 
>> in message  
>> <4261.203.177.105.170.1078798070.squirrel@bayok.msumain.edu.ph>,
>> wrote rfa@msumain.edu.ph thusly...
>>
>>>
>>> I just want to know what the moderator thinks about this and the
>>> ethical conditions that are touched...
>>
>>
>> There is no official moderator per se.  I think whom you are looking
>> for is "nanny" or "philosopher" ...
>>
>>   http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame12.html
>>   http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame17.html
>>
>>
>>> Also are these kinds of posts tolerated?
>>
>>
>> Well, you are seeing them on this list, aren't you?  This will go on
>> until one side tires or looses interest, only to be revived some
>> time later.  As always.
> 
> 
> Just to shoehorn this thread back a bit in the direction whence it came:
> 
> Looking at <URL: http://www.distrowatch.com/>, specifically the page 
> hit  rankings (on the right and down a little), at the moment the 
> 5th-ranked  Linux distro with an upward trend is Debian, whose install 
> makes FreeBSD's  look like an automated marvel in comparison.  
> 6th-ranked, also with an  upward trend, is Gentoo, whose install is also 
> relatively non-automated  and whose install instructions (the equivalent 
> of the Handbook sections on  installation) are often noted for their 
> difficulty.  8th-ranked, again  with an upward trend, is Slackware, 
> whose text-based install is very  similar to FreeBSD's, with perhaps a 
> bit more help text available.
> 
> Granted that the top 4 distros either have automagic installs 
> (Mandrake,  Fedora/Red Hat) or no install at all (Knoppix, the 
> Debian-based "live  CD"), it appears not to be true that popularity (at 
> least the *nix world  version) requires a graphical automated install, 
> were that the goal of the  FreeBSD project.
> 
> Jud
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