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Date:      Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:25:58 -0800
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Will Andrews <will@csociety.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: RELENG confusion RELENG_4 RELENG_4_5
Message-ID:  <20020129142558.E79208@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <p0510120eb87c8f8b26a0@[128.113.24.47]>; from drosih@rpi.edu on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 12:56:28PM -0500
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020129085825.29256P-100000@fledge.watson.org> <p0510120eb87c8f8b26a0@[128.113.24.47]>

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 12:56:28PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 8:58 AM -0500 1/29/02, Robert Watson wrote:
> >On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Will Andrews wrote:
> >  >
> >>  Uh.  It was my impression it was already unfrozen since we have a
> >>  RELENG_4_5 tree.. there will be no more work relating to the release on
> >>  the RELENG_4 tree.
> >
> >If you have't seen an announcement from Murray, then it's not unfrozen.
> 
> I suspect that some of the confusion about this comes from the message
> from Murray which said:
> 
>     From owner-committers-archive@FreeBSD.ORG  Fri Jan 25 12:17:02 2002
>     Message-Id: <200201252016.g0PKGsa17117@freefall.freebsd.org>
>     From: Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
>     Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:16:54 -0800 (PST)
>     To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
>     Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail
>     X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: HEAD
> 
>     murray      2002/01/25 12:16:54 PST
> 
>       Modified files:
>         .                    avail
>       Log:
>       Unfreeze src/, The RELENG_4_5_BP tag and the RELENG_4_5 branch have
>       been created.
> 
>       Revision  Changes    Path
>       1.163     +1 -1      CVSROOT/avail
> 
> It's pretty easy to read "Unfreeze src" and think that might mean
> that the code freeze is over, particularly when combined with the
> the rest of the log message.

But what I think he meant was to "unfreeze" in the sense that it was
not "physically" possible to commit to src/ while he had the 'avail'
lock set. This is opposed to the "policy" freeze where there is
nothing physically stopping commits, but one is supposed to obtain re@
permission first.

That said, I too have been unclear on whether RELENG_4 was still
frozen since RELENG_4_5_BP and RELENG_4_5 were laid down.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
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