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Date:      Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:13:37 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Andrew C. Hornback" <achornback@worldnet.att.net>, "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@atkielski.com>, "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net
Message-ID:  <000001c168ee$0d696280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <012201c16875$8e7b6b80$6600000a@columbia>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Andrew C.
>Hornback
>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:51 AM
>To: Anthony Atkielski; FreeBSD Questions
>Subject: RE: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:anthony@atkielski.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:20 AM
>> To: Andrew C. Hornback; FreeBSD Questions
>> Subject: Re: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net
>>
>> > Most organizations require something like that in
>> > writing, or at least as part of a face to face
>> > conversation.  That negates this loophole.
>>
>> I've never encountered an organization that has a policy like that, but my
>> personal policy is along those lines.  If any manager wants me to
>> compromise
>> system security, he needs to put it in writing.  This not only
>> protects the
>> organization from hanky-panky, but it protects me and the
>> organization from
>> lawsuits (albeit not prosecution, in most cases).
>
>	Having held such positions as Senior System Administrator, Director of
>Server and Network Operations and (hands on) Chief Operating Officer of an
>ISP... I'm very surprised that you've never encoutered this.
>
>	Such a policy is standard operating procedure for me, period,
>no matter
>where I am employed.

Same here.  However it's not usually done in physical writing.

I _am_ COO of an ISP and _everything_ that is done in the systems by myself or
the sysadmin touches the e-mail system in some manner.  Either the request
comes
via e-mail to the support list from a customer, or if it comes via phone a
note is sent to the support list, or via add-hoc from one of the techs it is
written up
in the mail system.  In fact one of the daily tasks I do is decide what
requests to permanently archive.  It's not necessary to fomalize things to the
extent your referring to, a simple 3 sentence e-mail that establishes who
made the request and if the request is completed is enough.  This establishes
in the archive time and date and tracking.  And that doesen't even cover the
tracking done on the billing system which has it's own tracking system.

I have had a lot of experience running IT and there is absolutely no way to
even start getting a handle on the department if this isn't done.  If you
don't take
the time to track things you spend time running from firedrill to firedrill
and
you cannot even begin to explain to the CEO or president why so much of the
company IT time is burned up on bullshit requests.  I've lost track of the
number
of times at previous companies I've worked at that some puffed-up department
head has steamed into my office ready to nail my ass to the wall because some
system they depend on got cocked-up, only to have me show them an e-mail audit
trail which points the blame for the problem right back to some cockamamie
thing that they or one of their underlings had my department do.

I'll readily admit that there's plenty of products (Notes comes to mind) that
are out there to do what I do with my e-mail system, but none are as fast to
enter data to.  e-mail is also something everyone, internal and external
employees, vendors and customers read, and I've CC'd more CYA e-mails to
troublemakers than I can remember.


Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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