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Date:      Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:40:30 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Kenneth Wayne Culver" <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
Cc:        "Jason Halbert" <jason@jason-n3xt.org>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Forrest Aldrich" <forrie@forrie.com>
Subject:   RE: ADSL with Verizon
Message-ID:  <000901c166a7$12aec620$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111050905060.21516-100000@rac2.wam.umd.edu>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu]
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:06 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Jason Halbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Forrest Aldrich
>Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon
>
>
>> yes - but that difference is only of consequence to the end user (you)
>> and the ISP.  (the thing on the other end of the DSL line that your
>> connected to)  It's just ATM packets to the Telco.  Don't confuse the
>> ISP (the thing on the other end of the DSL circuit to you) with the
>> circuit provider. (the Telco)
>
>If he's with verizon on the east coast of the US, then the ISP and the
>circuit provider are the same company. (BTW, if you look at dslreports,
>most of the reviews of verizon say it's not that great)
>

I'm not so sure about that - Verizon has recently begun fracturing itself
internally into multiple companies, all operating under the Verizon name.
I am getting extremely pissed off at them now - you cannot even call in
to Verizon's test and turn up department test on a god damn T1 without
being told "we can't tell you anything about that because the ILEC hasn't
released it back to us" when the ILEC is Verizon!!!

I am positive though that verizon.net (the Verizon ISP) and Verizon.com
(the people that own the phone lines and provide the DSL signalling on
it) are indeed different companies that are what you call "completely seperate
and independent companies that just happen to share the same name" that
statement was right out of a Verizon reps mouth.  It's enough to drive
you insane.


Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



>Ken
>
>


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