Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:49:13 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Kelly Hendrix" <kelly@compuage.com>, "Yong Lim" <yong@csfi.com> Cc: "Rick Hamell" <hamellr@heorot.1nova.com>, "SILVER, MICHAEL A" <MSILVER@scana.com>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Hello from russia! Message-ID: <001801c0932d$94384160$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010209171114.A1291@hnet04.kellyhendrix.com>
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Frankly, and I sure hope that I speak for everyone, I've always welcomed thoughtful questions from anyone on any FreeBSD-related topic, that were asked by a user of any level, who had taken the trouble to read the documentation on the website. I've personally always felt that with the exception of a little humor now and then to lighten things up, that it's not productive to post metadiscussion to mailing lists or newsgroups. (a metadiscussion is a discussion about a discussion for those that don't know) Posters that need guidance should be sent a polite e-mail steering them to the appropriate forum, and if we start getting too many of them a general e-mail should be sent out that explains the charter of the list. Many lists do this automatically once a month. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kelly Hendrix > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:11 PM > To: Yong Lim > Cc: Rick Hamell; SILVER, MICHAEL A; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Hello from russia! > > > Greetings > > Perhaps the charter could be modified so that newbies could ask > questions about command function and or syntax, i.e. how to mount a msdos > floppy, what's the command to see how much space I have left on my hard > drive, etc. Anything else could be bounced or referred to questions. > It's truly ironic that the nature of this thread, which questions the > raison d`etre of the newbie charter, is exactly the type of content that > was intended for this mailing list. That aside, my opinion is that > unless certain basic questions are allowed to be asked there's no point > having this list. Since the floor seems to be open to this discussion, > perhaps others can chime in and give their .02 worth. > > My .02 worth > > Kelly Hendrix > > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:28:57PM -0500, Yong Lim wrote: > > Is there no middle ground here? For newbies to subscribe to > -questions, it > > is very intimating. I tried and after a few days I had to get out. We > > don't need to scare off newbies but we don't want to give them > wrong answers > > either. > > > > How about sending out disclaimer from this list saying that any answers > > from -newbies should be tested out first. And for better answers check > > with -questions. I assume not many people subscribe to > -newbies are not > > running live production systems. If they are they need to re-examine > > something. But newbies might have starter questions like how > to mount an > > ms-dos floppy on FreeBSD...and a quick answer would carry them > to the next > > stage. > > > > Any way, just another rant...How are you doing to carry on a > conversation if > > you can't do Q&A? :-) > > > > Yong > > > > : -----Original Message----- > > : From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > : [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Hamell > > : Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:24 PM > > : To: SILVER, MICHAEL A > > : Cc: 'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG' > > : Subject: RE: Hello from russia! > > : > > : > > : > > : > So what if I answer this question here? Is that bad? Does > this rob us > > : > newbies of precious bandwidth that could have been used for > > : non-technical > > : > discussions? > > : > > > : > I just don't get this list. :-) > > : > > : No.... :) This list was created with the cavet that NO technical > > : questions be asked here. Because those who hang on -questions > did not want > > : to be subscribed to yet another email list, AND it was felt that the > > : FreeBSD project needed only one point of contact for technical > > : questions. The secondary effect is that since this is a > -newbie list and > > : newbie could potentially answer a question wrong. Without someone more > > : experienced around to watch for that... bad things could > happen to your > > : system. The simple fact is that this list needs to be renamed to > > : newbie-chat or deleted. :) > > : > > : Rick > > : > > : > > : > > : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > : with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > | There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a | > | miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. | > | | > | Albert Einstein (1879-1955) | > |______________________________________________________________________| > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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