Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:22:21 -0500 From: "Chuck Rock" <carock@epconline.net> To: "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net> Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Message-ID: <001b01c0bd1b$0b242a20$1805010a@epconline.net> In-Reply-To: <3ACB399B.979EA246@buckhorn.net>
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How about getting a license to put a machine on the public network so you have to abide by "rules" for security, and if you are shown to screw up, and not maintain your security, your license is revoked, and your pulic IP's are then taken out of routes so they can't be accessed until you prove your worthiness again, or someone fixes it. How many people are allowed to connect any computer they want to the public network, and cause harm to some or all the other users on that network. Kinda like driving a car, only the consequences aren't necesarily deadly. If you misconfigure BGP, you can effective screw up a large part of the Internet, this kind of power should not be given lightly. My 2 cents, Chuck Rock EPC > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bob Martin > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:11 AM > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > Clearly the sheer volume of morons is one reason. > > I've been giving a lot of thought to this whole thread. I keep asking > myself why we never had this problem in the days of DARPA, or more > correctly, why it keeps getting worse. It took me a while, but I think I > understand. It's not the number of "morons" on the outside that's > hurting us. It's the one's on the inside. > > What does it say about the state of our affairs when a teenager from > Canada can hijack 100's of computers and use them collectively against a > single target? > > It really boils down to the organizations that try and build a 10 dollar > network on a 2 dollar budget. There are too many underskilled, > understaffed and underbudgeted admins. They "allow" the holes that the > script kiddies exploit, and all of the rest of us suffer. > > It will do us little good to try and stop the morons on the outside > until the morons on the inside stop giving them the tools to work with. > > Until that happens, our only hope is to help each other, and keep each > other informed. I really think history will find that collective > information sharing, like this list, will have as much impact on the > Internet as Dr. Linklider's RFC's. > -- > Bob Martin, CTO > InterNet Unlimited > http://www.inu.net > mailto:bob@inu.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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