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Date:      Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:00:31 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Andrew Hesford" <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx>, "John Telford" <j.telford@sympatico.ca>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: What name brand would you buy for a firewall/router ?
Message-ID:  <006e01c0b1cc$3c563020$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010319233801.A95896@cec.wustl.edu>

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I've actually found that 486/33's and 486/25's are quite
satisfactory at acting as simple Ethernet-to-Ethernet routers.

In fact, at my home here I have a 386/25 EISA box with
2 SMC8013 ethernet cards in it and I can pass 3.5Mbt through
this for hours without trouble.  This is with a 10BaseT
nic in a Celeron that can run the Ethernet at 9Mbt if no
other devices are talking.

The great thing about the 486's is that the CPU's don't have
to be fan-cooled so there's one more failure point gone,
and they use less power, generate less heat, and as a
result last a lot longer.  The downside is finding 500Mbt
disk drives for them.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Andrew Hesford
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:38 PM
>To: John Telford
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: What name brand would you buy for a firewall/router ?
>
>
>If you want a box to push packets, go to a flea market or your favorite
>source for old hardware, and buy an old Dell Dimension P100. If you
>like, you can substitute the words "Dell Dimension P100" with the
>name of your (boss's) choice.
>
>I won't buy a Celeron on principle. A PIII is overkill extraordinaire if
>you're just jockeying packets. Get something in the 100-200 MHz range,
>which should go for less than $200 today.
>
>Naturally you will want PCI slots, since all the good NICs are PCI
>cards.
>
>I've got a diskless, videoless Dimension XPS P90c that runs PicoBSD. It
>does NAT, port forwarding, and packet filtering. I couldn't be happier.
>Cheap, quiet, easy. And I don't feel like I'm wasting a good processor,
>since I can't think of a better use for a 90 MHz Pentium.
>
>On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 12:31:37AM -0500, John Telford wrote:
>> If the boss said "stop using those old cast offs for FreeBSD
>> firewalls/routers and buy a name brand"
>> What's out there right now that would be worth looking at and avoiding.
>> Dell, IBM, Compaq ? Processor Celeron, PIII, AMD ?
>> Thanks in advance, John.
>> 
>> 
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