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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:18:29 -0700
From:      "Renaud Waldura" <renaud@waldura.com>
To:        "Mike Tancsa" <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)
Message-ID:  <00c501c2171e$7538a720$011211ac@biohz.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10206181454460.23627-100000@misery.sdf.com>

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Section 6.3 of the following document describes this issue in detail and may
help you solve it.

http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/pppoe/




----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Samplonius" <tom@sdf.com>
To: "Mike Tancsa" <mike@sentex.net>
Cc: <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)


>
>   Well, if you need to find the MTU, the ppp logs should tell you what the
> remote end is telling you to use.
>
>   Usually, if you are having a MTU problem, it relates to fragmentation,
> MTU detection and ICMP filters.  FreeBSD uses MTU detection by default.
> However, MTU detection requires that ICMP "can't fragment" messages be
> received, and some broken sites filter all ICMP.  I know that the Redback
> has an "ignore don't fragment" feature.  If this is enabled, it will
> fragment packets, it would normally throw away.  This feature will break
> MTU detection too, but at least the end user won't notice, and packets
> will flow.
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>
> >
> > The DSL whole supplier we use (Bell Canada) has been turfing their
Redback
> > SMSes and moving to an ERX from unisphere networks.
> >
> > With the Redback, all was great... I had a FreeBSD box acting as a NAT
> > gateway for a number of Windows boxes and all was great.  Then, the
> > customer got moved over to one of these ERXes and there is now some
strange
> > MTU problem.  Couple of things.  Supposedly the default MTU on the ERX
is
> > 1472 (or 1452) depending on who you talk to and not 1492.
> >
> > e.g. when doing a fetch to
> >  >> lynx2.8.4rel.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in
/usr/ports/distfiles/.
> >  >> Attempting to fetch from http://lynx.isc.org/current/.
> > Receiving lynx2.8.4rel.1.tar.bz2 (1940531 bytes): 0%^C
> > 16682 bytes transferred in 89.5 seconds (186.41 Bps)
> > fetch: transfer interrupted
> >
> > Notice the speed... Its totally brutal. yet, a transfer from just a few
> > hops away is fine.
> >
> > My question is, how can I track this problem down ?  There seems to be
some
> > strange interaction with FreeBSD because if I put a Windows box on the
> > other end, it does not suffer from this same problem. I can easily
repeat
> > the problem, but the question is, how can I track down the issue and
then
> > explain it to my telco.



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