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Date:      Sun, 4 Nov 2001 03:17:20 +0000
From:      Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>
To:        Francisco Reyes <lists@natserv.com>, FreeBSD Chat List <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Mini survey. Backup service for BSDs
Message-ID:  <01110403172000.01404@stinky.akitanet.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20011104142909.F18641-100000@zoraida.natserv.net>
References:  <20011104142909.F18641-100000@zoraida.natserv.net>

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On Sunday 04 November 2001 19:39, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> I have been pondering the idea of making a backup service for BSDs.
> It seems there are many for windows, but few (none?) for BSDs (or that
> would work with BSDs).

I think you might be targetting the wrong crowd at this point in time - 
backup systems like you're proposing are really useful if you have a desktop 
with loads of important info on, but you can't afford a DAT or similar, and 
you want an off-site backup. As the current market segment FreeBSD sits in is 
mostly the ISP-like data center or hard-core sysadmin crowd, most of the 
current users will have a backup solution of their own.

However, what I would say is that this is something that would be really cool 
if FBSD started seeing more desktop market share, and I can image that it 
would be a very neat system to sell FBSD to managers with. However, I think I 
have a better plan.

I was contemplating a few months ago coming up with some sort of open, 
public, distributed backup system that used something like PGP or similar 
crypto across a peer-to-peer-like architecture. And make it free. I know 
people have talked about distributed file systems with p2p but I want to test 
the waters with backups first. If you can get that working, distributed FS 
becomes a reality.

> So far I am thinking of using unison (simmilar to rsync, but simpler to
> learn/use) over ssh. The remaining issue is trying to find a crypto
> filesystem.

Never heard of unison, but I know rsync doesn't like large filesystems, and 
eats memory like Elvis ate burgers, but the ssh is good for the transactional 
security. If you can work out how to make sure the data on your system is 
secure, but they also manage to make a recovery when the private key 
disappears with the machine that gets screwed, then you might be onto 
something. ;-)

> Thoughts?
> I am thinking something along the lines:
> Space	Cost
> 100MB	$20
> 200MB	$30
> 500MB	$50

Per month? Per year? One-off charge? It was per month, I'd say it's above 
where most home users would want it, and like I said before most companies 
tend to prefer their own solutions. Unless somebody can tell us different.

Just my 2 braincells worth. ;-)

-- 
Paul Robinson

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