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Date:      Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:34:11 -0700
From:      Glen Gross <ggross@symark.com>
To:        "'Vivek Khera'" <khera@kciLink.com>, "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: turning off rcmd is premature
Message-ID:  <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com>

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From a non-programmer's standpoint, I also agree that turning off rshd is 
premature.  The strength of UNIX is traditionally in the fact that it is an 
open system.
Excessive zeal to make it secure also makes it less functional, and this is a 
delicate balance.  Many people will just consider the OS "broken"
if basic functionality is not there.  This kind of thing will probably just 
cause me to avoid running mergemaster.  For new systems I would then just FTP a 
working
copy of inetd.conf from another system anyway, rather than manually edit all 
the disabled defaults.     Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

Glen M. Gross
Unix Technical Support Specialist
Symark Software
5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200
Westlake Village, CA  91362
http://www.symark.com
unix-support@symark.com
Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100
Main fax: 818-889-1894


On Friday, October 13, 2000 1:25 PM, Vivek Khera [SMTP:khera@kciLink.com] 
wrote:
> Earlier this week, the rcmd (rshd/rlogin) service was turned off by
> default for new installs, and if you let mergemaster update your
> config to the current "recommended" settings.
>
> I think this is premature.
>
> >From where I sit, at least one more thing needs to be updated to allow
> using ssh before rcmd can be turned off.  That is rmt.  As it
> stands, new installs by default will not be able to do remote dumps
> properly until rshd is enabled in both inetd.conf and pam.conf.  If
> rmt supported ssh as a transport (apparently OpenBSD's version does),
> then it would make sense to turn off rshd totally.
>
> I understand that the default config is just that, but there should be
> some consideration as to it being sensible.  For myself, I protect
> rshd using tcpwrappers, so I'm not too worried about it for doing the
> dumps.
>
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Glen M. Gross
Unix Technical Support Specialist
Symark Software
5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200
Westlake Village, CA  91362
http://www.symark.com
unix-support@symark.com
Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100
Main fax: 818-889-1894





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