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Date:      Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:31:55 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Mike Meyer" <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        "Mike Meyer" <mwm@mired.org>, "Andrew C. Hornback" <achornback@worldnet.att.net>, <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?)
Message-ID:  <032d01c17947$2e923fe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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Mike writes:

> I had never seen the quote from Clarke before,
> or even heard that he had denied it. Thank you
> for providing the information along with a
> reference.

Someone else provided an actual quote and reference, although I've seen multiple
quotes from him.

> Why don't you let them decide that for themselves,
> instead of reaching that conclusion based on
> your shallow exposure to the problem.

I don't like to see ordinary users suffer.  They tend to become permanently
hostile to computers after a bad experience.

> Exactly. In that case, I'd point them to the
> Electric Power Research Institute, which is the
> only place I've ever seen that had parking
> spaces marked "Electric Vehicles Only."

Exactly.

> For every task you listed, I found an application.

"An application" isn't good enough.  It has to be compatible with the
applications I named.

> In that case, I must conclude that Windows -
> in any flavor - is completely unsuitable for
> desktop use because there isn't a version of
> ratpoison for it.

If ratpoison is a sine qua non for your use, that's true.


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