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Date:      08 Oct 2002 23:39:52 +0400
From:      "Vladimir B. " Grebenschikov <vova@sw.ru>
To:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: using mem above 4Gb was: swapon some regular file
Message-ID:  <1034105993.913.1.camel@vbook.express.ru>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0210081209010.11243-100000@root.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0210081209010.11243-100000@root.org>

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=F7 Tue, 08.10.2002, =D7 23:10, Nate Lawson =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC:
> On 8 Oct 2002, Vladimir B.  Grebenschikov wrote:
> > =F7 Tue, 08.10.2002, =D7 19:50, Mikhail Teterin =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC:
> > > On Tuesday 08 October 2002 11:41 am, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > =3D Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > =3D > So whatever connections you are getting now... halve that, or l=
ess,
> > > =3D > to get a window for your RAM disk (you will need KVA for mappin=
gs
> > > =3D > for all the memory that *can* be in the window, etc.).
> > > =3D=20
> > > =3D To emphasize this: if you are using 4K pages, you will need:
> > > =3D=20
> > > =3D 	4K/1M * 64G =3D 256M
> > > =3D=20
> > > =3D ...1/4 of 1G of memory outside the window, just for page tables.
> > > =3D=20
> > > =3D Also, if we still were using an mbuf per connection for the
> > > =3D template, for 1,000,000 connections, that's 256M of RAM -- anothe=
r
> > > =3D 1/4 gig.
> > > =20
> > > =3D Yeah, most people don't think in these terms; personally, I like
> > > =3D to call it "Extreme BSD".  8-).
> > >=20
> > > Although this is fascinating read -- it getting further and further a=
way
> > > from the original subject. And from the modified one too -- I don't
> > > believe Vladimir said anything about networking...
> >=20
> > Exactly, Terry is right about large number of relative-small
> > network-access processes (say apaches). But there are some other cases,
> > say you have some DB server with huge index, say 10Gb, I think keep
> > index in RAM effective than on disk.
>=20
> It's often surprisingly effective to just access the index on disk and
> tune your VM cache instead.  You can lose performance by double-caching
> data.

I don't want cache disk data in extra memory - simply store index in RAM
(no disk access at all) - I think it must be faster.

> -Nate

--=20
Vladimir B. Grebenschikov
vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc.

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