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Date:      06 Apr 2003 22:38:09 +0100
From:      Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Gnome <freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ports/50604: portupgrade -R of dia-0.90 fails after today's cvsup of ports tree
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Hello Joe,

On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 21:51, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 16:50, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > Hello Joe,
> > 
> > On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 21:08, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 06:39, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > Hello Joe,
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 03:42, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 18:55, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Joe,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let me know if you got my last email with the (negative) results from
> > > > > > editing XF86Config as per Piero's suggestion, please.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Gone awfully quiet, and I'm curious if its worth holding on (its 12:48
> > > > > > am) here at the moment :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, it looks like there is still some session stuff in your ~/.gnome
> > > > > directory.  Not sure if this is the culprit, but the truss doesn't have
> > > > > time stamps, so it's difficult to know where (or if) gnome-session is
> > > > > sleeping.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Try removing ~/.gnome/session*.  On my working GNOME 1.4 machine, I only
> > > > > have one session file.  It looks like you have multiple.  It might also
> > > > > be interesting to create a dummy user called gnome with a clean home
> > > > > directory, and see if you can login as gnome with a good response time. 
> > > > > This will help rule out a system issue.
> > > > 
> > > > Created the .xinitrc file for the user "gnome" that reads:
> > > > exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session
> > > > 
> > > > just as it is for the user "stacey"
> > > > 
> > > > Performed the logoff routine (killing pids / removing ~/.gnome/session*)
> > > > I logged off
> > > > Logged back in as the user "gnome"
> > > > Ran "startx"
> > > > I *IMMEDIATELY* had the Gnome Startup GUI screen.., and was completely
> > > > logged into Gnome / Sawfish Desktop within 5 seconds of running "startx"
> > > > 
> > > > I logged out of Gnome
> > > > Logged off the system (as the user "gnome")
> > > > Logged back on the system as the user "stacey"
> > > > Ran startx
> > > > Delays - 2 minutes, 27 seconds.
> > > > 
> > > > Somehow, this is a user-level issue?
> > > 
> > > Yep, it is.  The only other files read by gnome-session before the
> > > splash screen appears (now that you've remove all ~/.gnome/session*
> > > files) are ~/.gnome/Gnome and ~/.gnome/sound/system.  Try moving those
> > > files out of the way once GNOME is shutdown.  You may also want to
> > > remove ~/.gnome/.gnome-smproxy-*.
> > > 
> > 
> > Okay.., check me here, please.
> > In addition to those pid kills and deletion of ~/.gnome/session*
> > I also have to 
> > rm ~/.gnome/Gnome
> > rm ~/.gnome/sound/system
> 
> You don't have to delete these two.  You can simply move them out of the
> way.
> 
> > rm ~/.gnome/.gnome-smproxy-*
> 
> Yeah, delete this.
> 
> > 
> > Then log off system
> > Log back on the console
> > Run "startx"
> 
> Yep.

Okay.., that's more like it. 

The Gnome GUI splash thingy appeared almost instantly.

Couple of things though:

I usually would have the Gnome "login sound" play as the Sawfish is
started., that's not there.

All of my desktop noises (event generated noises that I set up), in fact
are not present anymore..,

I'm dying to hear what you make of these results..,

Thanks again.

Regards,

Stacey

> 
> Joe
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Stacey
> > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Let me know what else I can get for you, please.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Stacey
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 23:54, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 17:52, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello Joe (& Piero),
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 23:38, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 17:23, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 23:20, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 17:13, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Okay., I can do that., but where does that leave with me with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > content of the file? Should I send it as an attachment to you before
> > > > > > > > > > > > shutting down Gnome, or something?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sure.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Okay.., please find the file attached here, its kinda big :-(
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, after that.,. is it okay then to revert back to the original
> > > > > > > > > > > > ~/.xinitrc file and restart X / Gnome?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yep.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'll do this and catch you on the flip-side.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > You know, Piero may be on to something.  You _do_ have out-of-date
> > > > > > > > > modules loading in your XF86Config.  Prune your "Module" section so that
> > > > > > > > > it just contains:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "dbe"
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "extmod"
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "glx"
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "freetype"
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "type1"
> > > > > > > > >         Load  "speedo"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Note, glx (and dri) are optional.  See if that helps.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Okay.., here's what I've now got:
> > > > > > > > Section "Module"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "dbe"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "dri"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "extmod"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "glx"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "speedo"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "freetype"
> > > > > > > >         Load  "type1"
> > > > > > > > EndSection
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'll redo the logoff / login procedure, and see what happens.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Okay.  Also, you're not seeing the GNOME splash screen while X appears
> > > > > > > hung are you?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
-- 
Stacey Roberts
B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science

Web: www.vickiandstacey.com




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