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Date:      Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:57:04 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        andrewr <andrewr@slack.net>
Cc:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 2.2.6 zp/tcp fuckups. 
Message-ID:  <13083.905360224@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:32:52 EDT." <Pine.NEB.3.96.980909113232.10939A-100000@brooklyn.slack.net> 

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> Im sorry, but 226 seems to be working fine for everyone but you.  

I'm not sure if that kinda remark is going to help here, especially
with someone as easily combustible as Darren Reed.  It's probably more
correct to say that Darren is trying to use a PCCARD driver which
COMPLETELY SUCKS (and the ze/zp drivers are already well known to fall
into that category, especially considering what hacks they were on the
old ed/ep drivers) and his results are not all that particularly
surprising.  At least the PAO code lets you use the mainstream drivers
for PCCARD devices, e.g. the ed/ep drivers themselves rather than
older hacked versions of them that have long since been considered
obsolete.  If it weren't for the fact that the z? drivers still have
some residual value as installation media, they'd have probably been
chopped out of the system with a fire axe long ago.

And no, there's nobody currently working on integrating the PAO code
in their place.  I wish there was.  Tatsumi Hosokawa was given commit
privs so that he'd be able to do so, in fact, but then he was eaten by
a wooly mammoth* which escaped the advanced hibernation studies
facility at the University of Tokyo and we sort of lost that
opportunity.  Anyone else wishing to pick it up in the interim would
be MORE than welcome to do so, yes indeedy.

- Jordan

* Yes, I know wooly mammoths are herbivores.  The entire incident was
  very mysterious.

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