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Date:      Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:43:16 -0700 (MST)
From:      John Reynolds~ <jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com>
To:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly?
Message-ID:  <14554.26052.433543.757976@hip186.ch.intel.com>
In-Reply-To: <v04220809b5000f938273@[195.238.1.121]>
References:  <200003231801.KAA01088@mass.cdrom.com> <v04220809b5000f938273@[195.238.1.121]>

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[ On Thursday, March 23, Brad Knowles wrote: ]
> At 10:01 AM -0800 2000/3/23, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> >  At last count, I think we've bought, borrowed and cajoled about twenty or
> >  so cards and sent them off to Cameron.  I don't know what makes you think
> >  that we're _entirely_ stupid or greedy, especially since it's not like
> >  it's a secret or anything that we do this regularly.
> 
> 	Here's another idea -- make a list of cards that you know of that 
> there are problems with, but that you guys can't find.  Some of us 
> might happen to frequent computer shows or have some old hardware we 
> can scrounge up, and might be willing to give that to you (to give to 
> Cameron), or trade them for X future issues of the CD-ROM sets.
> 
> 	I certainly don't mind spending $25 (or $50, or $100) to help 
> support the FreeBSD project, and I don't really care too much how I 
> spend that money.  I'd prefer to spend it in a way that materially 
> helps the project, and it seems to me that helping to find and donate 
> bleeding-edge or ancient hardware for which we do not have good 
> support might be a better way to do that than to buy a subscription 
> of coasters.

Thank you Brad, this is the underlying point of my original message. I guess I
didn't state it clearly enough. I wouldn't mind doing the above either. There
have been mentions of "why doesn't somebody start a ``hardware for FreeBSD
developer's fund''?" on these lists before. I don't really remember the
details of the answers received--suffice to say that the jist of the answer
was "we already use CD profit sales to buy hardware."

If there is simply a communication problem here, let's try to overcome it.
i.e. developers *have* hardware but can't find that one "special" card they
want--or don't have the resources to get the "latest" card they're dying to
tear into. Let's publicize both cases if they exist so that no needless
yelling back and forth happens and we can move the project further ahead.

Cheers,

-Jr

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