Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:30:11 -0600 From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: "Mike Meyer" <mwm@mired.org>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: FreeBSD Firewall vs. Black Ice Message-ID: <15010.60451.584145.191384@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <005401c0a50d$f25b4700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> References: <15010.26348.659989.455852@guru.mired.org> <005401c0a50d$f25b4700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> types: > Remember Microsoft's world view of e-mail. In their frame of reference, if > you want to build an Enterprise mail system, you DON'T run > Outlook Express, and on your regular Outlook clients, you run > Exchange Connector going to an Exchange server. Microsoft doesen't > themselves produce virus-filtering software, and as such one of their > standing recommendations when putting in an Exchange server is to load > anti-virus on the Exchange server if your going to do Internet mail. [...] > Anyway, I agree with you that script processing shouldn't be shipped enabled > from the factory, but that's because I want to use BSD mailservers with free > Microsoft e-mail clients. I do recognize, > however, that since enabling script processing on the Microsoft mail clients > isn't a problem if using Microsoft mailserver products, that Microsoft has a > perfectly valid point of view as to why there's not a problem with shipping > mail clients with script processing enabled. Um - from what you said earlier, you can't get virus filtering using MS products. That they *acknowledge* that they have a problem is no excuse for shipping things with the problem installed. If MS Exchange included virus filtering, I might agree with you. But it doesn't. On the other hand - what does MSN provide as a default UMA, and how is it configured? Or do the MSN mail servers filter for such things? > I'm also recognizing that when I set up a mailsystem with Microsoft mail > clients and a BSD server, that Microsoft isn't being compensated for their > effort spent developing the mail client software. So, if I'm going to take > advantage of the free Microsoft mail clients without compensating them, I > had better not complain about their deficiencies. Personally, I think that anyone who is engaged in "dumping" deserves to be taken advantage of that way. Of course, I also consider reporting deficiencies in a product I use to be a favor to the developer - and yes, I believe that even if I'm the developer in question. After all, nobody can fix they don't know about it. <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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