Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 03:29:52 -0500 From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Publishers attacks on public rights. Message-ID: <15091.47616.961220.499572@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504213229.043f5460@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504122121.04699dc0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010504093633.045b1850@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010504091914.0467d5b0@localhost> <15090.43795.549818.410213@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010504213229.043f5460@localhost>
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types: > At 12:39 PM 5/4/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types: > >> At 09:51 AM 5/4/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >> >Considering that we're dealing with a group that has publicly stated > >> >policies of replacing fair use with a per-use charge and doing away > >> >with the doctrine of first sale... > >> A "group?" > >Well, while they are communicative, I wouldn't associate with them. > There are many other people in the FreeBSD community who are > publishers. Guess you'd better drop out.... You might otherwise > associate with many "e-vile" people. Nah - I'd rather try and educate them as to what their peers in that industry are doing - sometimes via associations that they are members of. > >No, most software publishers just stop at denying the public any > >rights, but don't do anything to actually enforce it. > Not so. Many of them DO enforce it. Hmm - I guess I've been lucky in avoiding them. > >It's the major > >content publishers - Disney, Warner Brothers, MGM and their ilk - that > >are taking away the rights of the public. That they also make life > >difficult for small publishers is undoubtedly just gravy to them. > One way in which the few nasty large publishers make life difficult > for smaller ones is that they turn loose rabid folk like yourself, who > then do their work for them. Actually, the rabid zealots doing their work for them are the demagogues of your stripe. > >You accusing someone of blind rage and sweeping, alarmist > >generalizations is absolutly *hilarious*. > No, it's disturbing. Especially since I seem to encounter it so much > among people who should know better but have become raving zealots > like yourself. No, it's hilarious. Because *you* are the primary source of blind rage, sweeping generalizations, alarmist proclomations - not to meantion zelotry and demagoguery on this list. If that weren't the case, I wouldn't have felt the need to forward information from the library community about what publishers are up to. > > What's really sad is that > >your attacks are aimed at people who are fighting for *your* rights as > >well. > Not at all. You're fighting to destroy my rights as an author, > publisher, musician, and programmer. No, I'm fighting to provide you, as a small publisher, with the level playing field that the large publishers and the organizations they control are trying to deny you. <mike P.S - to the rest of the list. Much as I hate the name-calling trend this has taken, I feel it only proper to call it when the pot calls the kettle black. My apologies if this has offended you. -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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